Mayka/ED,
Most of us are deeply bound by karma so that we are bored by
'just this'. I believe we can find satisfaction by just sitting
down and eventual enlightenment, but we are way from that 'goal'.
So perhaps Bill can improve his way of teaching like guiding
children away from their toys.
Anthony
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/Thank you for both links. It's been particularly
interesting reading controversial Brad W reply in connection
with Big Mind and Genpo Roshi...and my conclusion about the
whole thing is, that hearts feel profoundly grateful for
having found Thich Nhat Hanh dharma in those years in which
his home was not too crowded, not too polluted by westerners
speculation, aggression and most of it self, ego. There are
teachings that shouldn't be passed onto westerners in such a
light way. Big Mind might be one of those (I wouln't know
because first hearing was in American websites) . And yet
there is the possibility that in the original eastern
environment (perhaps under a differente name) have the
effect of a most powerful way of breaking through the self by
exposing it. Building up a bond in the process with other
practitioners sailing in the same boat./
/ /
/People don't want the simplicity of Buddhism and not
certainly zen. I wouldn't put the blame to anyone but just
in oneself incapacity of seeing what is there presented in
simplicity. For instance Anthony himself has pointed out
more than once the boredom of "just this" or sitting down.
We look for excitement all the time. No one external to
blame afterwards if we get hurt but just oneselves// /
//
/Mayka
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Date: Tuesday, 16 November, 2010, 5:44
"Big Mind"
"Merzel began developing the "Big Mind" process in 1999,
after having taught more traditional Zen meditation and
koan study for more than twenty years. The process is
intended to allow anyone — including non-Buddhists — to
experience "the enlightenment of the Buddha".
The process is designed as a combination of Eastern
meditation and Western psychological techniques to
transmit the essence of Zen teachings in a way that is
readily accessible and relevant to Westerners, a
realization they can further deepen through meditation.
The Big Mind process is claimed to enable participants to
get in touch with various aspects of themselves by
inviting them to identify as and speak from these aspects
or states of mind.
The teacher walks participants through interactions with
different aspects of their mind, including ordinary,
finite ones such as the Protector, the Skeptic and
Desiring Mind; and possibly less familiar, "transcendent"
ones such as the "Non-Seeking/Non-Grasping Mind", "the
Way", and "Big Mind and Big Heart".
Since 1999, he has offered workshops to more than 20,000
individuals all around the world. In addition to
presentations in cities in North America and Europe,
Genpo Roshi has made "Big Mind" available on DVDs and online.
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Genpo_Merzel#cite_note-4
Also see:
http://hardcorezen.blogspot.com/2010/04/big-mind-sucks-part-million.html
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Chris,
To the contrary. I do not recommend Big Mind ,
necessarily. In fact, I have said here that it is not a
process that works for me. It seems a bit like group
therapy, but not about zen.
I know it well, as I have a home in UT, (though I live in
CA). Gempo Roshi's zen center is just two miles from my
home there. I did attend many meditation groups ,
classes and even a few retreats there.. I am friends
with Diane Musho Hamilton, and she received her
transmission from Gempo Roshi.
Actually, I have been critical of this teaching model in
the past, but now-- Well, I truly feel that there are
different methods that work for different personalities
and cultures. So, if one finds Big Mind meaningful, thats
okay by me. I don't believe in one recipe. I do think it
may attract people who would not normally include zen, or
any spiritual practice in their lives. If so, then, I
think there is a benefit to society at large.
...
Kristy
