Anthony,
Your first statement is true. Your second half of your second statement
is filled with fear and uncertainty from your mind.
We were all originally enlightened. When the fear and suspicion from
our mind disappear, we may just realize that we are not that far.
While Ed continues to research and discuss and trying to understand,
perhaps you can stop circulating and trust yourself, that you can. We
all can.
:-)
Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
http://www.heartchan.org
On 11/16/2010 12:13 PM, Anthony Wu wrote:
Mayka/ED,
Most of us are deeply bound by karma so that we are bored by 'just
this'. I believe we can find satisfaction by just sitting down and
eventual enlightenment, but we are way from that 'goal'. So perhaps
Bill can improve his way of teaching like guiding children away from
their toys.
Anthony
--- On *Tue, 16/11/10, Maria Lopez /<[email protected]>/* wrote:
From: Maria Lopez <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, 16 November, 2010, 7:17 PM
/ED:/
/ /
/Thank you for both links. It's been particularly interesting
reading controversial Brad W reply in connection with Big Mind and
Genpo Roshi...and my conclusion about the whole thing is, that
hearts feel profoundly grateful for having found Thich Nhat Hanh
dharma in those years in which his home was not too crowded, not
too polluted by westerners speculation, aggression and most of it
self, ego. There are teachings that shouldn't be passed onto
westerners in such a light way. Big Mind might be one of those (I
wouln't know because first hearing was in American websites) .
And yet there is the possibility that in the original eastern
environment (perhaps under a differente name) have the effect of
a most powerful way of breaking through the self by exposing it.
Building up a bond in the process with other practitioners sailing
in the same boat./
/ /
/People don't want the simplicity of Buddhism and not certainly
zen. I wouldn't put the blame to anyone but just in oneself
incapacity of seeing what is there presented in simplicity. For
instance Anthony himself has pointed out more than once the
boredom of "just this" or sitting down. We look for excitement
all the time. No one external to blame afterwards if we get hurt
but just oneselves// /
//
/Mayka
/--- On *Tue, 16/11/10, ED /<[email protected]>/* wrote:
From: ED <[email protected]>
Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, 16 November, 2010, 5:44
"Big Mind"
"Merzel began developing the "Big Mind" process in 1999, after
having taught more traditional Zen meditation and koan study
for more than twenty years. The process is intended to allow
anyone — including non-Buddhists — to experience "the
enlightenment of the Buddha".
The process is designed as a combination of Eastern meditation
and Western psychological techniques to transmit the essence
of Zen teachings in a way that is readily accessible and
relevant to Westerners, a realization they can further deepen
through meditation.
The Big Mind process is claimed to enable participants to get
in touch with various aspects of themselves by inviting them
to identify as and speak from these aspects or states of mind.
The teacher walks participants through interactions with
different aspects of their mind, including ordinary, finite
ones such as the Protector, the Skeptic and Desiring Mind; and
possibly less familiar, "transcendent" ones such as the
"Non-Seeking/Non-Grasping Mind", "the Way", and "Big Mind and
Big Heart".
Since 1999, he has offered workshops to more than 20,000
individuals all around the world. In addition to presentations
in cities in North America and Europe, Genpo Roshi has made
"Big Mind" available on DVDs and online.
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Genpo_Merzel#cite_note-4
Also see:
http://hardcorezen.blogspot.com/2010/04/big-mind-sucks-part-million.html
--- In [email protected], Kristy McClain
<healthypl...@...> wrote:
>
Chris,
To the contrary. I do not recommend Big Mind , necessarily.
In fact, I have said here that it is not a process that works
for me. It seems a bit like group therapy, but not about zen.
I know it well, as I have a home in UT, (though I live in
CA). Gempo Roshi's zen center is just two miles from my home
there. I did attend many meditation groups , classes and
even a few retreats there.. I am friends with Diane Musho
Hamilton, and she received her transmission from Gempo Roshi.
Actually, I have been critical of this teaching model in the
past, but now-- Well, I truly feel that there are different
methods that work for different personalities and cultures.
So, if one finds Big Mind meaningful, thats okay by me. I
don't believe in one recipe. I do think it may attract people
who would not normally include zen, or any spiritual practice
in their lives. If so, then, I think there is a benefit to
society at large.
...
Kristy
