JMJM,
Nagarjuna (Longshu Pusa) was the grandfather of mahayana.
Tantrism also recognizes him as their initiator (truly or not is
up to discussion). 'Mizong' is another name for Tantrism, so you
are an expert of Tantrism.
Tantrism is split into branches. One of them engages in 'sex
ritual'. Do you do it?
Anthony
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From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.j...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Zen] Tao vs Chan, Rid dirty chi, Ultimate Truth
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Date: Wednesday, 12 January, 2011, 8:19 AM
Hello Anthony,
I really am not familiar with Tibetan Tantrism. Please share
with the forum.
For whatever its worth, the only thing that I have "heard"
was Tibetan Buddhism, or "Secret Order", or 『密宗』, was
taught by 『龍樹菩薩』,who is Chan Master. Therefore Chan
is also considered 『大密宗』, or "Grand Secret Order".
There could be many similarities in the practice. Our
practice is called, 『秘密內證法』, or "Secret Inner
Witness Dharma".
:-)
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On 1/11/2011 3:53 PM, Anthony Wu wrote:
JMJM,
Besides Buddhism and Tao, your Chan practice also absorb
something from Tibetan Tantrism, as described by you on
chakras and energy channels. If you don't agree, please explain.
Anthony
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Subject: Re: [Zen] Tao vs Chan, Rid dirty chi, Ultimate
Truth
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Date: Tuesday, 11 January, 2011, 3:17 PM
Hello TMSO, (I hope you don't mind me using initials :-) )
Again very important question. Before I say anything I
like to repeat what my teacher often remind us,
"Practice and you shall witness. We all can." My words
are only for your reference.
* The Sitting Practice of Chan is mostly Tao. The
Words are most Buddhism, because 49 years of
teaching gave us a lot of terms to use. The
spiritual realms we reach however are universal
and label-less.
* Stage one, we practice to reach Constant Turning
Of Dharma Wheels. In layman's language, that is
to cycle three energy channels passing all ten
chakras, three times, within a single breath.
Then our body is pure. This will take about three
years for average person, if practices on a daily
basis. At this stage, our physical being
transforms into an energy being, we are naturally
fed with universal energy constantly. (I don't
have jet lag. Don't get tired.)
* Ultimate Truth/Final Form/True Form is called by
some the Ninth Consciousness, or the Realm of
Light. It is the Truth, Kindness and Perfection.
Some call it the nature of the universe, or nature
of chan, or the nature of all of us. :-)
Our meditation website is
htttp://www.chan-meditation.org. And if you register
and log in at heartchan.org, there are about 8 or 10
video taught directly by our Lineage Chan Master, be
connected with His chi while listening to his words.
There is English subtitle. Each is about 45 minutes long.
Let me know if you need more details. Thank you for
giving me this opportunity to share.
JMJM
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On 1/10/2011 8:14 PM, taomtnsage1 wrote:
To Jue Miao Jing Ming- Could you please tell me how
Chan is different than Tao. Also, how in Chan can we
rid our bodies of dirty chi, and replace it with fresh.
I meditate with a candle (candle gazing) and am able to
go for long periods where I am "one" with the candle. I
can't describe it-I just "am". I have no thoughts, I
just "am." It's incredible. Lastly, what is the state
of Ultimate Truth/Final Form/True Form. Thank you for
taking the time to answer this...taomtnsa...@yahoo.com
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