Thank you, Bill, for the most enlightened word. Now I stopped believing the 
Newton's first law of action and reaction. I am going to ram onto a wall.

Anthony

--- On Thu, 13/1/11, Bill! <billsm...@hhs1963.org> wrote:

From: Bill! <billsm...@hhs1963.org>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Differences Tao/Chan, which older
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 13 January, 2011, 7:05 PM







 



  


    
      
      
      Science is a belief system...Bill!



--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 
<chan.jmjm@...> wrote:

>

> Hello TMSO,

> 

> I would say both are NOT believe systems.

> 

>  From my limited understanding, Tao is a system, or school well 

> documented.  It primarily focuses on attaining immortality.  I mean with 

> herbs, exercises, etc. etc.

> 

> Chan is just a nick name for the entire universe for thousands of 

> years.  I was curious to its origin many years ago.  I dug here and 

> there and could not find an answer.  Even Wikipedia stated, if I 

> remember correctly, "the original of Chan can not be traced."

> 

> Chan did not have an official teaching order until BodhiDharma showed 

> up.  But my teacher often pointed out how incomplete are some of the 

> Buddhist interpretation.

> 

> Our school is really about direct, really is direct, experience.  That's 

> all.

> 

> Sorry, these are my best answers.  JM

> 

> Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can

> http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com

> http://www.heartchan.org

> 

> 

> On 1/12/2011 2:57 PM, taomtnsage1 wrote:

> >

> > To Jue Miao Jing Ming- Could you please tell me some of the 

> > differences between Tao and Chan. Also, which belief system developed 

> > first. Thanks for your help...taomtnsage1@... 

> > <mailto:help...taomtnsage1%40yahoo.com>

> >

> >

>





    
     

    
    


 



  





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