Re: [Zen] Differences Tao/Chan, which older

[Bill!]

Po-TAY-to, po-TAA-to...Bill!

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain <healthyplay1@...> wrote:
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> Bill,
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> I disagree.  Its your belief about your experience.
>  
> Kristy
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> --- On Thu, 1/13/11, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote:
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> From: Bill! <BillSmart@...>
> Subject: Re: [Zen] Differences Tao/Chan, which older
> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 5:13 PM
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> Just THIS is not a belief, it is experience...Bill!
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> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain <healthyplay1@> wrote:
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> > So is "just this".  k ;)
> > 
> > --- On Thu, 1/13/11, Bill! <BillSmart@> wrote:
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> > From: Bill! <BillSmart@>
> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Differences Tao/Chan, which older
> > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 4:05 AM
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> > Science is a belief system...Bill!
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> > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 
> > 覺妙精æËÅ"Ž <chan.jmjm@> wrote:
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> > > Hello TMSO,
> > > 
> > > I would say both are NOT believe systems.
> > > 
> > > From my limited understanding, Tao is a system, or school well 
> > > documented. It primarily focuses on attaining immortality. I mean with 
> > > herbs, exercises, etc. etc.
> > > 
> > > Chan is just a nick name for the entire universe for thousands of 
> > > years. I was curious to its origin many years ago. I dug here and 
> > > there and could not find an answer. Even Wikipedia stated, if I 
> > > remember correctly, "the original of Chan can not be traced."
> > > 
> > > Chan did not have an official teaching order until BodhiDharma showed 
> > > up. But my teacher often pointed out how incomplete are some of the 
> > > Buddhist interpretation.
> > > 
> > > Our school is really about direct, really is direct, experience. That's 
> > > all.
> > > 
> > > Sorry, these are my best answers. JM
> > > 
> > > Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
> > > http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
> > > http://www.heartchan.org
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 1/12/2011 2:57 PM, taomtnsage1 wrote:
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> > > > To Jue Miao Jing Ming- Could you please tell me some of the 
> > > > differences between Tao and Chan. Also, which belief system developed 
> > > > first. Thanks for your help...taomtnsage1@ 
> > > > <mailto:help...taomtnsage1%40yahoo.com>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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