Oh my God.. Guys.. I am putting the "Do Not Disturb" sign out for a few days. We are TRYING to finally have a short belated honeymoon. I get the "no confidence" vote from Anthony. To Bill.. I experienced "just this" today. zen-in-motion. We arrived pre-dawn on the top of a volcano.. and cycled the way down. Amazingly--words can't describe. I guess like, "just this";) btw-- Anthony.. no photos or stories to share. k
--- On Mon, 1/17/11, Anthony Wu <[email protected]> wrote: From: Anthony Wu <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] the death of the prince, vegetarianism?(to Chris/Kristy/list) To: [email protected] Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 5:13 PM Bill, Correction: there is no difference between killing your lover and eliminating vermins. Go, go, go kill and loot. Anthony --- On Tue, 18/1/11, Bill! <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bill! <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] the death of the prince, vegetarianism?(to Chris/Kristy/list) To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, 18 January, 2011, 7:57 AM How so? Please explain that to me...Bill! --- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote: > > > Bill, >  > What you kill matters. There is a big difference between eliminating germs > and killing your zen master. >  > Anthony >  > > --- On Sun, 16/1/11, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@...> > Subject: Re: [Zen] the death of the prince, vegetarianism?(to > Chris/Kristy/list) > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, 16 January, 2011, 8:06 AM > > >  > > > > Krity's right. All life is sustained by other life. It's just a big cycle of > transformation we call life and death. > > I have no quarrels with anyone choosing to be a vegetarian, but if they think > they're doing that because that helps them live a life that does not > harm/kill other life they are just engaging in wishful thinking. Everything > we do, even just our presence contributes to the death of other life. Even > our skin contains acid which kills bacteria. > > Of course that doesn't give us an excuse to run out and kill everything we > see - but to live is to kill. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Kristy McClain <healthyplay1@> wrote: > > > > Hi Mel, > >  > > As to the vegetarian-thing. I understand the teaching as a practice > > of non-harming all living beings. But I heard Andrew Weil say a few > > years ago, that to survive, we have to end the life of something, beit > > a carrot or a cow. He's a botanist, you know;) > >  > > Wrapping up my Japanese holiday, and heading back via Hawaii. (Need > > to warm up). Plus, my golf-obsessed 4 yo nephew has put in his birthday > > request -- a sand wedge --his size. > >  > > Good weekend to all... > >  > > Thanks to Mel, Steve and Chris, for the interesting thread on the > > Gospel of Thomas. I assume that is part of the Gnostics? > >  > > Kristy > >  > > > > > > --- On Sat, 1/15/11, Mel <gunnar19632000@> wrote: > > > > > > From: Mel <gunnar19632000@> > > Subject: [Zen] the death of the prince, vegetarianism?(to Chris/Kristy/list) > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Saturday, January 15, 2011, 6:12 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 15/1/11, ChrisAustinLane <chris@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 14, 2011, at 7:01, Kristy McClain <healthyplay1@> wrote: > > > > > Mel pondered if my suggestion that Buddha's enlightment was impermanent, > > > when I offered that even Buddha likely had "bad hair days". > > > > I missed that thread, but it is an interesting question. What if Buddha had > > gotten alzheimer's? being awake is a dynamic process not a static thing. > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > MEL: Hi Kristy and Chris. Kristy your reply was quite inspiring. You've put > > it better than I did(I have an excuse...you're the one with the > > education..*sighs/laughter*) > >  > > Chris, I don't know about azheimer's but I assume that health conditions in > > those days might have been pretty bad. However, I did get from the late > > Deshimaru-sensei's writings that the Buddha apparently died from eating > > some pork-meat. Wild boar perhaps?...which leads to this > > (conservative/mainstream) so-called Buddhist belief(looks more like an > > issue to me) about the need to abstain from meat. According to > > Deshimaru-sensei, the Buddha preached none of this(How about fish?) > >  > > Don't get me wrong, because I personally love my vegies, fruit, tofu, beans > > and so on...but I'm not quite clear on this 'vegetarian' thingy > >  > > Be well > > Mel > >  > >  > > >
