Yeah!  Just THIS! rocks!

Enjoy your belated honeymoon, and I offer you a belated congratulations!

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], Kristy McClain <healthyplay1@...> wrote:
>
> Oh my God..
>  
> Guys.. I am putting the "Do Not Disturb" sign out for a few days.   We are 
> TRYING  to finally  have a short belated honeymoon.
>  
> I get the "no confidence" vote from Anthony.
>  
> To Bill..
>  
>  I experienced "just this" today. zen-in-motion.  We arrived pre-dawn  on 
> the top of a volcano.. and cycled the  way down.  Amazingly--words can't 
> describe.
>  
> I guess like, "just this";)  btw-- Anthony.. no photos or stories to 
> share.  k 
>  
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 1/17/11, Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Anthony Wu <wuasg@...>
> Subject: Re: [Zen] the death of the prince, vegetarianism?(to 
> Chris/Kristy/list)
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 5:13 PM
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bill,
>  
> Correction:
>  
> there is no difference between killing your lover and eliminating vermins.
>  
>  
> Go, go, go kill and loot.
>  
> Anthony
> 
> --- On Tue, 18/1/11, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Bill! <BillSmart@...>
> Subject: Re: [Zen] the death of the prince, vegetarianism?(to 
> Chris/Kristy/list)
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, 18 January, 2011, 7:57 AM
> 
> 
>   
> 
> How so? Please explain that to me...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Bill,
> >  
> > What you kill matters. There is a big difference between eliminating germs 
> > and killing your zen master.
> >  
> > Anthony
> >  
> > 
> > --- On Sun, 16/1/11, Bill! <BillSmart@> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > From: Bill! <BillSmart@>
> > Subject: Re: [Zen] the death of the prince, vegetarianism?(to 
> > Chris/Kristy/list)
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Sunday, 16 January, 2011, 8:06 AM
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Krity's right. All life is sustained by other life. It's just a big cycle 
> > of transformation we call life and death.
> > 
> > I have no quarrels with anyone choosing to be a vegetarian, but if they 
> > think they're doing that because that helps them live a life that does not 
> > harm/kill other life they are just engaging in wishful thinking. Everything 
> > we do, even just our presence contributes to the death of other life. Even 
> > our skin contains acid which kills bacteria.
> > 
> > Of course that doesn't give us an excuse to run out and kill everything we 
> > see - but to live is to kill.
> > 
> > ...Bill! 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], Kristy McClain <healthyplay1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Mel,
> > >  
> > > As to the vegetarian-thing.  I understand the teaching  
> > > as a practice of non-harming all living beings.  But I heard 
> > > Andrew Weil say a few years ago, that to survive, we have to  end 
> > > the life of something, beit a carrot or a cow. He's a botanist, you know;)
> > >  
> > > Wrapping up my Japanese holiday, and heading  back  via 
> > > Hawaii. (Need to warm up). Plus,  my golf-obsessed 4 yo nephew 
> > > has put in his birthday request -- a sand wedge --his size.
> > >  
> > > Good weekend to all...
> > >  
> > > Thanks to Mel, Steve and Chris, for the interesting thread on 
> > > the  Gospel of Thomas. I assume that is part of the Gnostics?
> > >  
> > > Kristy
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- On Sat, 1/15/11, Mel <gunnar19632000@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: Mel <gunnar19632000@>
> > > Subject: [Zen] the death of the prince, vegetarianism?(to 
> > > Chris/Kristy/list)
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Date: Saturday, January 15, 2011, 6:12 AM
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- On Sat, 15/1/11, ChrisAustinLane <chris@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Jan 14, 2011, at 7:01, Kristy McClain <healthyplay1@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Mel pondered if my suggestion that Buddha's enlightment was 
> > > > impermanent, when I offered that even Buddha likely had "bad hair 
> > > > days". 
> > > 
> > > I missed that thread, but it is an interesting question. What if Buddha 
> > > had gotten alzheimer's? being awake is a dynamic process not a static 
> > > thing. 
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > MEL: Hi Kristy and Chris. Kristy your reply was quite inspiring. You've 
> > > put it better than I did(I have an excuse...you're the one with the 
> > > education..*sighs/laughter*)
> > >  
> > > Chris, I don't know about azheimer's but I assume that health conditions 
> > > in those days might have been pretty bad. However, I did get from the 
> > > late Deshimaru-sensei's writings that the Buddha apparently died 
> > > from eating some pork-meat. Wild boar perhaps?...which leads to this 
> > > (conservative/mainstream) so-called Buddhist belief(looks more 
> > > like an issue to me) about the need to abstain from meat. According to 
> > > Deshimaru-sensei, the Buddha preached none of this(How about fish?)
> > >  
> > > Don't get me wrong, because I personally love my vegies, fruit, tofu, 
> > > beans and so on...but I'm not quite clear on this 'vegetarian' thingy
> > >  
> > > Be well
> > > Mel
> > >  
> > >  
> > >
> >
>




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