--- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Hi again, Steve,
> 
> Right on!
> 
> Experiencing kensho-satori generally takes intense practice over a long
> period of time, and so, from a long term perspective, the cultivation is
> gradual.
> 
> From a short term perspective over minutes or hours, the onset of a
> kensho-satori experience feels like a (sudden) quantum leap.
> 
> --ED

  Hi ED. Here's my opinion. Sudden insight is not caused by gradual 
cultivation. First there is sudden insight, and then one gradually follows-up 
on that. The gradual cultivation is the natural result of the sudden insight. 
The sudden insight is not the result of gradual cultivation. The Lin Chi people 
tend to endorse Sudden Enlightenment with Sudden Cultivation. In my experience, 
conditioned volitional impulses don't just go away with insight. But a 
distinction is to be made here between insight and de-conditioning. One has a 
sudden insight about the emptiness of phenomena and ego and then one naturally 
follows up that insight with cultivated practice. Of course, I could just be 
mistaken. Not the first time!
Steve
> 
> 
>




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