No worry, Mike. No misunderstanding here.
Because I learned everything in Chinese. That's why I joined four
forums to learn the English.
Then I found out, Zen and Chan are not exactly the same. Interesting
journey.
:-)
Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
http://www.heartchan.org
On 3/24/2011 11:24 PM, mike brown wrote:
JM,
Sure. My comment about your school seeming to be Taoist was just that
- a comment - and not a criticism. I have to agree with ED tho, that I
find the terminology you use to be difficult for me, too. I guess the
substance is the samebut the form is somewhat different (a British
understatement). I still like the bit you said having supernatural
powers tho : )
Mike
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*From:* Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Fri, 25 March, 2011 15:10:45
*Subject:* Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen
Hi Mike, Even Osho said, Chan combines the essence of Tao and Buddhism.
Yes our practice is Taoist. Our words are Buddhist. After all,
Buddha had 49 years to describe the various stages of his journey in
detail. When comes to spirituality, Buddhist has the most detailed
terms. Jesus had only three. If God give Jesus 49 years, I am sure
He would said the same thing.
Since I am educated as a high tech guy, Chan practice transformed me
180 degrees, because I have witnessed. It is an amazing journey.
Yes, to focus on the present moment is the key. But it is not a
life-less focus, it is a continual purification of our chi, while let
the mind focus just on the emptiness. It is a parallel process.
Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
http://www.heartchan.org
On 3/24/2011 10:49 PM, mike brown wrote:
Thanks JM,
Wow, that all sounds so alien (no pun implied...) to me. I've always
been taught that you shouldn't regret the past (it's gone and so
unchangeable) nor worry about the future (it's an unknowable range of
possibilities) - only the now is real and knowable. I must say, your
school sounds more Taoist than Buddhist sometimes.
Mike
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*From:* Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Fri, 25 March, 2011 14:33:43
*Subject:* Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen
Mike, No one told me what. One is from Pureland and the other is
Chan. One said to get more people to meditate and other said to
chant Namo Amitaba every night. They usually don't tell us what will
happen.
Yet both said it before the Japanese quake.
Sorry, that all I know.
Personally, I also sensed an urgency for awhile without any reason. :-)
Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
http://www.heartchan.org
On 3/24/2011 10:25 PM, mike brown wrote:
JM.
*Warning warning!* ...we MUST get more people to meditate to quiet
the karmic events arriving soon.
What kind of shape would these events take? The Mayan 2012 prophecy?
The sky falls? A major earthquake/tsunami (oops, they missed that
one)? American Idol winner has talent? Sarah Palin wins the US
presidency? ED 'gets it'?...
Does the practice of Chan endow you with supernatural powers? Btw,
this question is not as facetious as I know it looks.
Mike
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*From:* Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Fri, 25 March, 2011 13:40:34
*Subject:* Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen
Excellent, Bill.. Now here is my preliminary plan..
We will launch Adword in April with keywords such as depression,
stress, insomnia, etc. to get people to learn meditation. At the
same time, we will be starting a movement on Facebook titled,
"Meditate First" = "whether you are Chrisitan, Buddhist, Muslin,
Jew, rich or poor, before you act, talk, think, Meditate First."
Sort of...
Both of these will aggregate witnesses in health and spirituality,
just from opposite ends. Therefore, there will be one web area, be
it tumblr, or facebook page, or part of meditatefirst.org, where
witnesses are posted.
Both chan-meditation.org(from what are the benefits) and
meditatefirst.org (to connect deeper to Christ) will link to this place.
The idea is not to compare zen/Chan with Christianity, or teach
Christians about zen/Chan, but get Christians to Meditate First.
They will automatically deepen their faith or read Bible
differently. Therefore, in these articles, there will be no need to
mention Zen or Chan, just how to meditate to be closer to God.
Please let me know your thoughts. If you can think of an outline, I
can setup anything in one week -- joomla 1.5 or just Tumblr. Then
you can enter the content. I would not have time to read anything.
I have a lot to do.
* Our Family Oneness program is successful into libraries.
* Corporate Oneness programs is piloted into corporations.
* Personal oneness program to hit the US through Adword.
* A 200 people Chan Center is in the process being located.
* 10 classes a week to support.
Let us do something. Everyone is welcome.
BTW, Not sure I mentioned this before, my Teacher and another well
known Teacher both mentioned about one month ago, we MUST get more
people to meditate to quiet the karmic events arriving soon.
No wonder I have sensing urgency for awhile. Just do what we can.
Together.
Many Thanks. A bow to ALL.
JM
Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
http://www.heartchan.org
On 3/24/2011 5:36 PM, Bill! wrote:
JMJM,
I would be interested in participating in this. I was brought up as
a Christian and have gone through a lot of Bible study. I agree
wholeheartedly with your premise.
If you haven't already read it, I'd suggest you find a copy of a
small book called THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO ZEN. It's theme is the
same as the one you've described.
...Bill!
--- In [email protected]
<mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, Jue Miao Jing Ming -
覺妙精明 <chan.jmjm@...> wrote:
>
> Good Morning Steve and anyone who is interested to help,
>
> I wanted to incorporate a zen way to deepen the "Christian faith"
on our
> websites, but I don't know the Bible enough.
>
> The intent is...
>
> * To show that Chan/zen and christian faith are one of the same.
> * Enabling the reading of the bible in a different light.
> * Deepen our connection with God.
>
> It could be a page or two, or an entire website, (if you have the
time
> to write the content and the newsletter). I can set it up.
>
> This will be interlinked with http://www.chan-meditation.org.
<http://www.chan-meditation.org./> It is now
> top ranked in google, bing, yahoo with keyword -- chan
meditation. (no
> quotation mark).
>
> Also because we will be promoting Chan meditation beginning in
April/May
> with online Adword.
>
> Many Thanks,
> JM
>
> --
> Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
> http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com <http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com/>
> http://www.heartchan.org <http://www.heartchan.org/>
>
