Bill...

Come on Bill I can't believe you said this! You imply that great practitioners 
would be out doing evil unless they were doing THOSE things to keep them from 
evil deeds.. Also you correctly have said before Zen doesn't recognize good or 
evil...

Edgar


On Jun 4, 2012, at 3:52 AM, Bill! wrote:

> Joe,
> 
> Even the Greatest of Practitioners weed the garden regularly.  Do you know 
> why?  Because during the time they are weeding the garden (or washing the 
> dishes, or sweeping the floor, or playing with their children, or gazing up 
> into the stars) they are not doing evil.  They are just weeding, washing, 
> sweeping, playing or gazing.  No room for evil then.
> 
> ...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote:
>> 
>> Even the greatest of Great practitioners read the sutras regularly.  Does 
>> anyone know the reason?
>> 
>> The reason is... that... during the time of reading the sutras, we are not 
>> doing evil.
>> 
>> And teachers remind us that we must not read the Sutras and try to interpret 
>> them through or via any "Zen" experience that we have had, during our 
>> practice.
>> 
>> Instead, we interpret and evaluate our EXPERIENCE through the light of the 
>> Sutras.  Big difference.
>> 
>> It's a way to keep ourselves safe.  It seems simple, but in fact it is 
>> incredibly momentous.  It can save many, many lives.
>> 
>> --Joe / 
>> 
>>> K, I have to agree with you again that though the sutras profess to be from 
>>> the words of the historcal Buddha, they are actually not.
>> [snippeth]
>> 
> 
> 



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