Edgar,

I agree.

--ED



--- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>
ED,
Not at all, one uses it as required but as a tool. On doesn't live
inside it and see the world through it...
Edgar


On Jun 5, 2012, at 12:47 PM, ED wrote:



Edgar,

Would it be correct to go further and assert that if one has zen, one is
freed from all discursive and dianoetic thinking - and possibly all
feelings too?

--ED

PS: Bill, your views are always welcome because I view them to be
nearest to if not identical with the views of the lineage of your second
oriental Zen teacher.

--- In [email protected]
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/post?postID=sNFgzVSxGujTET9EZUu\
BDhW0DOc8D9QmsZdRyCihvDk8MZyw099wIOx6k3SkGWTT5WrLiGtxOHikmpEavDRga9lg-QO\
IIw> , Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>
> Joe,
>
> Well being a quadriplegic would also 'keep you out of trouble' but
that doesn't mean it has anything to do with Zen...
>
> The correct understanding is if you really have Zen you don't worry
about 'getting into trouble'.
>
> Edgar




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