I thought it was you that said it which was out of character... Edgar
On Jun 4, 2012, at 8:23 PM, Bill! wrote: > Edgar, > > You should know me better than that... > > My post was a response to Joe who asserted that masters read the sutras to > help them from doing evil. My post was to point out that reading the sutras > is no better of an activity than washing the dishes. If done well and with > focus it stops your rational mind from creating (or attaching to) illusions > of duality - and in that sense, yes it does prevent the creation of the > dualistic concepts of good/evil. > > I hope this better explains my intention of that post. > > Thanks...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > > > Bill... > > > > Come on Bill I can't believe you said this! You imply that great > > practitioners would be out doing evil unless they were doing THOSE things > > to keep them from evil deeds.. Also you correctly have said before Zen > > doesn't recognize good or evil... > > > > Edgar > > > > > > On Jun 4, 2012, at 3:52 AM, Bill! wrote: > > > > > Joe, > > > > > > Even the Greatest of Practitioners weed the garden regularly. Do you know > > > why? Because during the time they are weeding the garden (or washing the > > > dishes, or sweeping the floor, or playing with their children, or gazing > > > up into the stars) they are not doing evil. They are just weeding, > > > washing, sweeping, playing or gazing. No room for evil then. > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@> wrote: > > >> > > >> Even the greatest of Great practitioners read the sutras regularly. Does > > >> anyone know the reason? > > >> > > >> The reason is... that... during the time of reading the sutras, we are > > >> not doing evil. > > >> > > >> And teachers remind us that we must not read the Sutras and try to > > >> interpret them through or via any "Zen" experience that we have had, > > >> during our practice. > > >> > > >> Instead, we interpret and evaluate our EXPERIENCE through the light of > > >> the Sutras. Big difference. > > >> > > >> It's a way to keep ourselves safe. It seems simple, but in fact it is > > >> incredibly momentous. It can save many, many lives. > > >> > > >> --Joe / > > >> > > >>> K, I have to agree with you again that though the sutras profess to be > > >>> from the words of the historcal Buddha, they are actually not. > > >> [snippeth] > > >> > > > > > > > > > >
