ED,

No, at least in my experience it would not be correct to assert what you have 
expressed below.

If you preceded your list with the phrase 'attachments to', then I could buy 
that.

...and who do you think my 'second Oriental teacher' was?

...Bill!  

--- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Edgar,
> 
> Would it be correct to go further and assert that if one has zen, one is
> freed from all discursive and dianoetic thinking - and possibly all
> feelings too?
> 
> --ED
> 
> PS: Bill, your views are always welcome because I view them to be
> nearest to if not identical with the views of the lineage of your second
> oriental Zen teacher.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote:
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > Well being a quadriplegic would also 'keep you out of trouble' but
> that doesn't mean it has anything to do with Zen...
> >
> > The correct understanding is if you really have Zen you don't worry
> about 'getting into trouble'.
> >
> > Edgar
>




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