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From: Bill! <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, September 12, 2012 3:50:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Zen] He Who Is Without Sin...

  
There's a Bill! and now a Bill. I'm Bill! and I'm a co-moderator with Edgar. 
There's also an ED, but he's not Edgar.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
>
> bill..which bill is this?..another bill..not the bill the moderator?..i am 
>confused...merle
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: William Rintala <brintala@...>
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2012 2:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [Zen] He Who Is Without Sin...
> 
> 
>   
> As I understand it Bill! there are at least 2 extremely different 
>interpretations of Christ and his cross.  Catholacism saiys that Christ 
>suffered and died on the cros for our sins.  Their image of Christ has him 
>nailed to the cross.  I was raised as a Lutheran/ Protestant and they don't 
>say 
>that.  What we were taught was that Christ died and was buried.  He rose 
>from 
>the dead 3 days later and ascended into heaven as proof that all who believe 
>in 
>him will have everlasting life.  Their image is of an empty cross and their 
>call at Easter is "Christ has risen" to which the appropriate response is "He 
>has risen indeed".
>  Bill 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Find what makes your heart sing…and do it! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Bill! <BillSmart@...>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tue, September 11, 2012 5:14:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Zen] He Who Is Without Sin...
> 
>   
> Merle,
> 
> Play 'Drop the Biblical Quote and Then Run Away and Hide'.
> 
> My question to you was "According to Christianity what was the 'purpose' or 
>'achievement' of Jesus' life (and death)?"
> 
> I'll give you a hint. It has to do with 'sin'.
> 
> Tag! You're it! ...Bill! 
> 
> --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> >  play what.?..i did not know it was a game...merle
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Merle,
> > 
> > Was that an answer to my question, or just a 'I don't want to play anymore'?
> > 
> > ...Bill!
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  hail mary!...merle
> > >   
> > > Merle,
> > > 
> > > Yes! A sinless human.
> > > 
> > > I thought you knew something about the 'mental model' of Christianity. 
> > > According to Christianity what was the 'purpose' or 'achievement' of 
> > > Jesus' 
>life (and death)? That's the whole point of Christianity!
> > > 
> > > ...Bill!
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ÃÆ'‚  jesus bill then you are a bloody saint!...a 
> > > > sinless 
>human being..lordy be... what an achievement!..merle
> > > > ÃÆ'‚  
> > > >
> Merle,
> > > > 
> > > > I never said I was the 'second Christ'. I said 'I was without sin'. I 
> > > > was 
>YOU that suggested I was the 'second coming'...
> > > > 
> > > > ...Bill!
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ hang on bill... you said 
> > > > > you 
>were the second christ..did i mis judge you?..merle
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  
> > > > > Merle,
> > > > > 
> > > > > There is only ONE 'Christ' - like there is only ONE 'Buddha' and only 
>ONE 'Buddha Nature'.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Just
> FYI...Bill!
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
>ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ well
> said KG...is romney thinking he is the second christ?... merle
> > > > > > 
>ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> 
> > > > > > We all are "the second coming of Christ [not of Jesus - but of 
>"Christ"].ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> Teaching point to realization. We all have/are the potential to realize this 
> - 
>for this to be realized - all have/are Buddha
> nature - to awaken to (call it what you like). That's the point of the 
>teachings. Otherwise why come to teach the 'first' time? Applies to equally 
>Jesus' or Buddha's story.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The whole 'give a man a fish/teach a man to fish' schtick.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Surely you have always realized this?! *L*
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > KG
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On 9/10/2012 8:49 AM, Merle Lester wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
>ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
>>ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ christ
> we have found
> him..bill is the second coming!...merle
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
>>ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> 
> > > > > > >Merle,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >In one of your posts a long time ago and far,
> > > > > > far away (that means I couldn't find it) you
> > > > > > castigated me for stating that Christians and
> > > > > > Muslims did bad things during the Crusades in
> > > > > > the name of their religions. You used a quote
> > > > > > of Jesus from the Bible and I think it was:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >"Let him who is without sin among you be the
> > > > > > first to throw a stone... - John 8:7 (English
> > > > > >
> Standard Version)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I have already stated in an early post (an
> > > > > > even longer time ago and further away) that I
> > > > > > considered myself pretty knowledgeable about
> > > > > > Christianity and very knowledgeable about the
> > > > > > teaching of Jesus. I didn't respond to this
> > > > > > part of your post at that time because I
> > > > > > didn't consider this quote really relevant to
> > > > > > our discussion, but I would like to respond
> > > > > > now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I am without sin so would be eligible to throw
> > > > > > stones if and when the situation calls for
> > > > > > that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >...Bill!
> >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



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