There's a Bill! and now a Bill. I'm Bill! and I'm a co-moderator with Edgar. There's also an ED, but he's not Edgar.
...Bill! --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > bill..which bill is this?..another bill..not the bill the moderator?..i am > confused...merle > > > ________________________________ > From: William Rintala <brintala@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2012 2:56 AM > Subject: Re: [Zen] He Who Is Without Sin... > > >  > As I understand it Bill! there are at least 2 extremely different > interpretations of Christ and his cross. Catholacism saiys that Christ > suffered and died on the cros for our sins. Their image of Christ has him > nailed to the cross. I was raised as a Lutheran/ Protestant and they don't > say that. What we were taught was that Christ died and was buried. He > rose from the dead 3 days later and ascended into heaven as proof that all > who believe in him will have everlasting life. Their image is of an empty > cross and their call at Easter is "Christ has risen" to which the appropriate > response is "He has risen indeed". >  Bill > > > > > Find what makes your heart singâ¦and do it! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Bill! <BillSmart@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, September 11, 2012 5:14:51 AM > Subject: Re: [Zen] He Who Is Without Sin... > >  > Merle, > > Play 'Drop the Biblical Quote and Then Run Away and Hide'. > > My question to you was "According to Christianity what was the 'purpose' or > 'achievement' of Jesus' life (and death)?" > > I'll give you a hint. It has to do with 'sin'. > > Tag! You're it! ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > àplay what.?..i did not know it was a game...merle > > > > > > à> > Merle, > > > > Was that an answer to my question, or just a 'I don't want to play anymore'? > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ãâàhail mary!...merle > > > Ãâà> > > Merle, > > > > > > Yes! A sinless human. > > > > > > I thought you knew something about the 'mental model' of Christianity. > > > According to Christianity what was the 'purpose' or 'achievement' of > > > Jesus' life (and death)? That's the whole point of Christianity! > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàjesus bill then you are a bloody saint!...a > > > > sinless human being..lordy be... what an achievement!..merle > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > > Merle, > > > > > > > > I never said I was the 'second Christ'. I said 'I was without sin'. I > > > > was YOU that suggested I was the 'second coming'... > > > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàhang on bill... you said > > > > > you were the second christ..did i mis judge you?..merle > > > > > ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > > Merle, > > > > > > > > > > There is only ONE 'Christ' - like there is only ONE 'Buddha' and only > > > > > ONE 'Buddha Nature'. > > > > > > > > > > Just > FYI...Bill! > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¡ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàwell > > > > > > said KG...is romney thinking he is the second christ?... merle > > > > > > ÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¡ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > > > > > > > > > We all are "the second coming of Christ [not of Jesus - but of > > > > > > "Christ"].ÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¡ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > > > Teaching point to realization. We all have/are the potential to > > > > > > realize this - for this to be realized - all have/are Buddha > nature - to awaken to (call it what you like). That's the point of the > teachings. Otherwise why come to teach the 'first' time? Applies to equally > Jesus' or Buddha's story. > > > > > > > > > > > > The whole 'give a man a fish/teach a man to fish' schtick. > > > > > > > > > > > > Surely you have always realized this?! *L* > > > > > > > > > > > > KG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/10/2012 8:49 AM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¡ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¡ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàchrist > > > > > > > we have found > him..bill is the second coming!...merle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¡ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Merle, > > > > > > > > > > > > > >In one of your posts a long time ago and far, > > > > > > far away (that means I couldn't find it) you > > > > > > castigated me for stating that Christians and > > > > > > Muslims did bad things during the Crusades in > > > > > > the name of their religions. You used a quote > > > > > > of Jesus from the Bible and I think it was: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Let him who is without sin among you be the > > > > > > first to throw a stone... - John 8:7 (English > > > > > > > Standard Version) > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I have already stated in an early post (an > > > > > > even longer time ago and further away) that I > > > > > > considered myself pretty knowledgeable about > > > > > > Christianity and very knowledgeable about the > > > > > > teaching of Jesus. I didn't respond to this > > > > > > part of your post at that time because I > > > > > > didn't consider this quote really relevant to > > > > > > our discussion, but I would like to respond > > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I am without sin so would be eligible to throw > > > > > > stones if and when the situation calls for > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >...Bill! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! 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