bill..which bill is this?..another bill..not the bill the moderator?..i am confused...merle
________________________________ From: William Rintala <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2012 2:56 AM Subject: Re: [Zen] He Who Is Without Sin... As I understand it Bill! there are at least 2 extremely different interpretations of Christ and his cross. Catholacism saiys that Christ suffered and died on the cros for our sins. Their image of Christ has him nailed to the cross. I was raised as a Lutheran/ Protestant and they don't say that. What we were taught was that Christ died and was buried. He rose from the dead 3 days later and ascended into heaven as proof that all who believe in him will have everlasting life. Their image is of an empty cross and their call at Easter is "Christ has risen" to which the appropriate response is "He has risen indeed". Bill Find what makes your heart sing…and do it! ________________________________ From: Bill! <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, September 11, 2012 5:14:51 AM Subject: Re: [Zen] He Who Is Without Sin... Merle, Play 'Drop the Biblical Quote and Then Run Away and Hide'. My question to you was "According to Christianity what was the 'purpose' or 'achievement' of Jesus' life (and death)?" I'll give you a hint. It has to do with 'sin'. Tag! You're it! ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > >  play what.?..i did not know it was a game...merle > > >  > Merle, > > Was that an answer to my question, or just a 'I don't want to play anymore'? > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > >  hail mary!...merle > >  > > Merle, > > > > Yes! A sinless human. > > > > I thought you knew something about the 'mental model' of Christianity. > > According to Christianity what was the 'purpose' or 'achievement' of Jesus' > > life (and death)? That's the whole point of Christianity! > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >  jesus bill then you are a bloody saint!...a sinless human > > > being..lordy be... what an achievement!..merle > > >  > > > Merle, > > > > > > I never said I was the 'second Christ'. I said 'I was without sin'. I was > > > YOU that suggested I was the 'second coming'... > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ hang on bill... you said you were the second > > > > christ..did i mis judge you?..merle > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Merle, > > > > > > > > There is only ONE 'Christ' - like there is only ONE 'Buddha' and only > > > > ONE 'Buddha Nature'. > > > > > > > > Just FYI...Bill! > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ well said KG...is romney > > > > > thinking he is the second christ?... merle > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > We all are "the second coming of Christ [not of Jesus - but of > > > > > "Christ"].ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Teaching point > > > > > to realization. We all have/are the potential to realize this - for > > > > > this to be realized - all have/are Buddha nature - to awaken to (call it what you like). That's the point of the teachings. Otherwise why come to teach the 'first' time? Applies to equally Jesus' or Buddha's story. > > > > > > > > > > The whole 'give a man a fish/teach a man to fish' schtick. > > > > > > > > > > Surely you have always realized this?! *L* > > > > > > > > > > KG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/10/2012 8:49 AM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ christ we have found him..bill is the second coming!...merle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > >Merle, > > > > > > > > > > > >In one of your posts a long time ago and far, > > > > > far away (that means I couldn't find it) you > > > > > castigated me for stating that Christians and > > > > > Muslims did bad things during the Crusades in > > > > > the name of their religions. You used a quote > > > > > of Jesus from the Bible and I think it was: > > > > > > > > > > > >"Let him who is without sin among you be the > > > > > first to throw a stone... - John 8:7 (English > > > > > Standard Version) > > > > > > > > > > > >I have already stated in an early post (an > > > > > even longer time ago and further away) that I > > > > > considered myself pretty knowledgeable about > > > > > Christianity and very knowledgeable about the > > > > > teaching of Jesus. I didn't respond to this > > > > > part of your post at that time because I > > > > > didn't consider this quote really relevant to > > > > > our discussion, but I would like to respond > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > >I am without sin so would be eligible to throw > > > > > stones if and when the situation calls for > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > >...Bill! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
