Waste not want not.
KG
On 10/9/2012 9:51 AM, Edgar Owen wrote:
If I was starving sure...
Edgar
On Oct 9, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Bill! wrote:
Edgar,
So would you now be prepared (albeit reluctantly) to eat human flesh?
...Bill!
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<mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
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> Bill,
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> I ate no meat at all for 17 years. I now eat a little reluctantly
because if I don't I get metabolic fatigue symptoms...
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> Edgar
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> On Oct 9, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Bill! wrote:
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> > Edgar,
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> > Are you a vegetarian? ...or if not, a cannibal? ...Bill!
> >
> > --- In [email protected]
<mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote:
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> > > Joe and Merle,
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> > > Any valid ethical principle must apply equally well to both
humans and other species....
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> > > Do not to a cat what you would not do to a human....
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> > > Edgar
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> > > On Oct 9, 2012, at 2:31 AM, Merle Lester wrote:
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> > > > neuter the humans who breed more that 2 offspring !..merle
> > > >
> > > > Jim,
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> > > > OK, just understand that I did my best to tell you the worst.
> > > >
> > > > I think one must, should, and CAN weigh the total good done,
against any harm. Overall, the avoidance of starvation and disease in
6 or 7 offspring kittens can count more on the cosmic
brownie-point-scale than fright given to the potential parent, and a
sore pubis for 3 days or so. No one can convince you of that, and not
everyone is capable of putting in the effort to borrow the
"Hav-a-Heart" trap from the spay-clinic free of charge, nor in
baiting it to capture the cat in question. It does take some directed
effort! I don't say I've ever gotten good at it, but I have been
doing it close to 50 years.
> > > >
> > > > I'll say frankly though, to emphasize: I think it is immoral
to feed the starving females without having them neutered, first.
Feeding them makes them fertile if they are not first spayed.
> > > >
> > > > In this matter, though, you will of course be the Judge, Your
Honor.
> > > >
> > > > I think to get the cat's consent, just consult your
conscience, and recall that we are all in this together.
> > > >
> > > > (my conscience tells me neuter them, or never, ever, feed
them; thus, I neuter them, because I want them to live).
> > > >
> > > > --Joe
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected]
<mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, "jfnewell7" <jfnewell7@> wrote:
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> > > > > I know that that is the standard advice, but I don't know
how to get the cats' informed consent to be spayed or neutered.
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