I've got to go Now. I will watch LAST RESORT Now. And drink a glass of wine Now.
...Bill! --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > Edgar, > > I'm no master but I do like to test your logic once in a while...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > > > > Glad I passed the master's test! > > :-) > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Bill! wrote: > > > > > Edgar, > > > > > > Okay, good answer. I just wanted to test out your 'ethics must apply > > > equally' statement...Bill! > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > If I was starving sure... > > > > > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Bill! wrote: > > > > > > > > > Edgar, > > > > > > > > > > So would you now be prepared (albeit reluctantly) to eat human flesh? > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill, > > > > > > > > > > > > I ate no meat at all for 17 years. I now eat a little reluctantly > > > > > > because if I don't I get metabolic fatigue symptoms... > > > > > > > > > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Bill! wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edgar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you a vegetarian? ...or if not, a cannibal? ...Bill! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe and Merle, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any valid ethical principle must apply equally well to both > > > > > > > > humans and other species.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not to a cat what you would not do to a human.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 2012, at 2:31 AM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neuter the humans who breed more that 2 offspring !..merle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK, just understand that I did my best to tell you the worst. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think one must, should, and CAN weigh the total good done, > > > > > > > > > against any harm. Overall, the avoidance of starvation and > > > > > > > > > disease in 6 or 7 offspring kittens can count more on the > > > > > > > > > cosmic brownie-point-scale than fright given to the potential > > > > > > > > > parent, and a sore pubis for 3 days or so. No one can > > > > > > > > > convince you of that, and not everyone is capable of putting > > > > > > > > > in the effort to borrow the "Hav-a-Heart" trap from the > > > > > > > > > spay-clinic free of charge, nor in baiting it to capture the > > > > > > > > > cat in question. It does take some directed effort! I don't > > > > > > > > > say I've ever gotten good at it, but I have been doing it > > > > > > > > > close to 50 years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll say frankly though, to emphasize: I think it is immoral > > > > > > > > > to feed the starving females without having them neutered, > > > > > > > > > first. Feeding them makes them fertile if they are not first > > > > > > > > > spayed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this matter, though, you will of course be the Judge, Your > > > > > > > > > Honor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think to get the cat's consent, just consult your > > > > > > > > > conscience, and recall that we are all in this together. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (my conscience tells me neuter them, or never, ever, feed > > > > > > > > > them; thus, I neuter them, because I want them to live). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Joe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "jfnewell7" <jfnewell7@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that that is the standard advice, but I don't know > > > > > > > > > > how to get the cats' informed consent to be spayed or > > > > > > > > > > neutered. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
