If I was starving sure... Edgar
On Oct 9, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Bill! wrote: > Edgar, > > So would you now be prepared (albeit reluctantly) to eat human flesh? ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > > > Bill, > > > > I ate no meat at all for 17 years. I now eat a little reluctantly because > > if I don't I get metabolic fatigue symptoms... > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Bill! wrote: > > > > > Edgar, > > > > > > Are you a vegetarian? ...or if not, a cannibal? ...Bill! > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Joe and Merle, > > > > > > > > Any valid ethical principle must apply equally well to both humans and > > > > other species.... > > > > > > > > Do not to a cat what you would not do to a human.... > > > > > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 2012, at 2:31 AM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neuter the humans who breed more that 2 offspring !..merle > > > > > > > > > > Jim, > > > > > > > > > > OK, just understand that I did my best to tell you the worst. > > > > > > > > > > I think one must, should, and CAN weigh the total good done, against > > > > > any harm. Overall, the avoidance of starvation and disease in 6 or 7 > > > > > offspring kittens can count more on the cosmic brownie-point-scale > > > > > than fright given to the potential parent, and a sore pubis for 3 > > > > > days or so. No one can convince you of that, and not everyone is > > > > > capable of putting in the effort to borrow the "Hav-a-Heart" trap > > > > > from the spay-clinic free of charge, nor in baiting it to capture the > > > > > cat in question. It does take some directed effort! I don't say I've > > > > > ever gotten good at it, but I have been doing it close to 50 years. > > > > > > > > > > I'll say frankly though, to emphasize: I think it is immoral to feed > > > > > the starving females without having them neutered, first. Feeding > > > > > them makes them fertile if they are not first spayed. > > > > > > > > > > In this matter, though, you will of course be the Judge, Your Honor. > > > > > > > > > > I think to get the cat's consent, just consult your conscience, and > > > > > recall that we are all in this together. > > > > > > > > > > (my conscience tells me neuter them, or never, ever, feed them; thus, > > > > > I neuter them, because I want them to live). > > > > > > > > > > --Joe > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "jfnewell7" <jfnewell7@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that that is the standard advice, but I don't know how to > > > > > > get the cats' informed consent to be spayed or neutered. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
