joe..what edgar says makes sense...who was buddha's teacher? who was christ's 
teacher?..merle


  
Joe,

You claim that "you cannot do the work to awaken on your own".

O really, then who pray tell was Buddha's teacher since he had no human teacher?

Give up?

Answer. It was reality as I've been trying to explain to you.

I prove my point...

Edgar





On Oct 26, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Joe wrote:

  
>Edgar,
>
>No, Edgar, it is not BS.
>
>(If you need someone to attack, try Paintball).
>
>A lot of self-enlightened fools traipse the streets of the world.  They are 
>not awake.  Are you one?  No, I think you worked with a teacher, once.
>
>The methods of Zen are Medicine, and the Teacher is Medicine, too.  So is a 
>Sangha.
>
>You cannot do the work to awaken on your own.  The fact that you think it is 
>on "your" own is what keeps you in the small bottle, and prevents You from 
>flowing out to expand to the walls of the infinite aquarium.
>
>Take the medicine; awaken; be well; and *then* your last line is finally true. 
> Not before.
>
>Of course not everybody wants to or can do that, even if it means never 
>awakening.  But when these fools represent themselves as masters and demean or 
>deprecate Practice, they are not to be suffered gladly, nor suffered at all.
>
>Yes, it's everywhere.  So are the unoxidizable tools of awakening, waiting in 
>the shed, available to you and to everyone if you want to see a change.
>
>Go for it!
>
>Or maybe you've done this at some time, and still remember it.
>
>--Joe
>
>> Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>>
>> Joe,
>> 
>> This is BS.
>> [snip]
>> Zen is not to be found in a teacher or monastery. It's everywhere right in 
>> front of your nose..
>
>

 

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