Joe, If someone doesn't experience he's in a state of realization he's not.
And no teacher's certification can change that... Edgar On Nov 22, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Joe wrote: > Edgar, > > No, you've said that MORE than once. > > If a practitioner in our tradition cares to be sure that they are not > deluding THEMSELVES, and have truly awoken to Tathagata Zen, a teacher is > needed to do the testing. > > I don't know about your "essential" (I use that word differently), but I'd > say necessary. > > To do that latter step. > > That testing. > > "Get it?", now? > > --Joe > > > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > > > As I said yesterday a teacher can be helpful but is NOT essential.. > >
