Merle,

Yep; I still don't know where you're coming from.

If you want to practice in the Zen way, you practice in the Zen way.  If you 
don't, you don't.  This is how the tradition survives.  If you do not practice 
in the Zen way, it is not Zen practice.  That is all.

Reformers may spring up, as did Dogen in one of the Old Countries.  But he 
first practiced in the Zen way.  He was a thorough master, trained in China.  
Then, he used his awakened genius to make changes in monastic Zen practice in 
Japan, and instituted very strict and stringent rules.  And yet he still 
practiced in the Zen way, and so did all his disciples.  You would have hated 
him.

--Joe

> Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
>
> ..after all the "master" is just another human being...no more or less than 
> any other human being..setting teachers/ gurus on pedestals.....
> .i do not  believe this is the zen way..



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