Merle, BINGO!!!! I'm proud of you!
Experience is not complicated at all. Concepts about reality are very complicated. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > >  >  too complicated at times...and that is where the zen zen zen is a wonderful > "experience"..dare i say?..merle > > >  > Bob, > > Reality IS complicated... > > Edgar > > > > > On Apr 28, 2013, at 9:07 PM, bobthomas564 wrote: > >  > >Hi Edgar - You remind me of a line from a favourite rock n roll song of > >mine by a group called Garbage. the line is "I'm only happy when it's > >complicated" . > > > >From "Only happy when it rains" if you like rock n roll here's' the > >utube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esEdC0c3YI4 > > > >Another great line is 'pour your misery down on me' > > > >--- In [email protected], Edgar Owen wrote: > >> > >> Bill and Merle, > >> > >> Here Bill is arguing against something I've never said so he's not > >arguing against me, he's arguing against his own demons... > >> > >> Apparently Bill is continually beset by naughty little Zen demons > >whispering he's wrong that he can't quite manage to exorcise! > >> > >> Bill, when you realize that all demons are actually Buddhas in > >disguise you will understand! > >> :-) > >> > >> Edgar > >> > >> > >> > >> On Apr 27, 2013, at 7:52 AM, Bill! wrote: > >> > >> > Edgar, > >> > > >> > Yes. I'm afraid we have a fundamental disagreement here. > >> > > >> > I think zen practice empties out your mind, and you think it fills > >it up. > >> > > >> > Do you want to Rock/Paper/Scissors for it? > >> > > >> > ..Bill! > >> > > >> > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen edgarowen@ wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Bill, > >> > > > >> > > As usual you contradict the Zen teachings which I support.... > >> > > > >> > > Edgar > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On Apr 26, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Bill! wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > Edgar, > >> > > > > >> > > > I see your problem now. > >> > > > > >> > > > You think progress in zen is measured in ADDING ON things - like > >knowledge. It's not. You progress in zen by TAKING AWAY things until you > >get down to Just THIS! > >> > > > > >> > > > You don't progress from Level 2 to Level 3. You progress from > >Level 2 to Level 1 and then to Level 0 which is actually no-level - > >Buddha Nature. > >> > > > > >> > > > You're trying to fill you cup up instead of emptying it...Bill! > >> > > > > >> > > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Bill, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > That's Niels, not Neal. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Go back to stage one and get it right. Do NOT pass go! > >> > > > > :-) > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Edgar > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On Apr 26, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Bill! wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Edgar, > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > *** Sorry, I misread your post below and Replied > >incorrectly. I erased that but if you get the posts by email you might > >have received it. If you did please disregard. My corrected post is *** > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > What do you mean Stage Three? Neal and I are done with Stage > >Two and and now ready for Stage One! > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > ...Bill! > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Bill, > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks for the quote in which Bohr correctly expresses > >stage two "mountains are no longer mountains". > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Stage three is when those unreal illusory things are > >realized to be the true reality. Then mountains become mountains again.. > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Both Bill and Bohr haven't reached that stage yet... > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Edgar > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Apr 26, 2013, at 5:38 AM, Bill! wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Maybe Edgar will listen to him... > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ...Bill! > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
