butting in..edgar and bill!..the question remains then what are you filling zen up with edgar?..merle Edgar,
Yes. I'm afraid we have a fundamental disagreement here. I think zen practice empties out your mind, and you think it fills it up. Do you want to Rock/Paper/Scissors for it? ..Bill! --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > Bill, > > As usual you contradict the Zen teachings which I support.... > > Edgar > > > > On Apr 26, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Bill! wrote: > > > Edgar, > > > > I see your problem now. > > > > You think progress in zen is measured in ADDING ON things - like knowledge. > > It's not. You progress in zen by TAKING AWAY things until you get down to > > Just THIS! > > > > You don't progress from Level 2 to Level 3. You progress from Level 2 to > > Level 1 and then to Level 0 which is actually no-level - Buddha Nature. > > > > You're trying to fill you cup up instead of emptying it...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > > > > > > Bill, > > > > > > That's Niels, not Neal. > > > > > > Go back to stage one and get it right. Do NOT pass go! > > > :-) > > > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 26, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Bill! wrote: > > > > > > > Edgar, > > > > > > > > *** Sorry, I misread your post below and Replied incorrectly. I erased > > > > that but if you get the posts by email you might have received it. If > > > > you did please disregard. My corrected post is *** > > > > > > > > What do you mean Stage Three? Neal and I are done with Stage Two and > > > > and now ready for Stage One! > > > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Bill, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the quote in which Bohr correctly expresses stage two > > > > > "mountains are no longer mountains". > > > > > > > > > > Stage three is when those unreal illusory things are realized to be > > > > > the true reality. Then mountains become mountains again.. > > > > > > > > > > Both Bill and Bohr haven't reached that stage yet... > > > > > > > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 26, 2013, at 5:38 AM, Bill! wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe Edgar will listen to him... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
