Edgar,
You don't need to sell me western civilization.
Figuring-out is not Zen, and is not Zen practice. I do, I do, pity you for
having such a warped and uninformed relentless view. I salute Bill! for
challenging and not condoning your spreading it here, where it does not fit.
Where it belongs instead, you decide.
--Joe
> Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>
> In the history of humanity first things had to be figured out [snip]
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