And yet you are the one who started this conversation.  It has been my 
understanding that the primary message of Buddhism was addressing suffering.  
What it is and how to stop it. The Buddha was not searching or teaching ways to 
survive crises but to end suffering.  I can agree that survivability might be 
enhanced by being fully in the moment but I see no certainty of it. In my 
readings of Zen the moment of Death is often addressed with an awareness and 
often a smile. The strawberry is so sweet.




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From: Joe <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 4:27:50 PM
Subject: [Zen] Re: Someone Else's Opinion on What is Real and What is Not...

  
Hi, William,

The crisis is and was the one you raised earlier, about killing some beast or 
other. Thought and pondering at that scene would be inexcusable, while acting 
in 
accord with need, informed by your intimacy and full presence and awareness of 
conditions, would give you an opening to hunt another day.

Coming back to practice, practice enables habits to drop, so we can be present 
fully. You can still use what you've learned, but you won't be bound by it. 
That 
is all.

And that is the point. I won't engage in useless historicizing, not in a Zen 
discussion forum, anyway. If we're not already clear about how practice works, 
then the next step is clear: practice. There may be pointers on it here at the 
Forum. A real teacher face to face is the best teacher though, many here would 
agree.

--Joe

> Email <brintala@...> wrote:
>
> You've modified your original position from a statement of our genetic 
>inheritance to surviving a crisis. That quite a bit different. However from 
>your 
>current position are you saying that the people who died from the bombings in 
>Boston were "burdened and unable to act spontaneously" while those who 
>survived 
>were "acting spontaneously and were unburdened"? Or is there some other type 
>if 
>crisis? 
>
> If two people, one who was unburdened and acting spontaneously and had never 
>encountered a tiger in the wild and the other who hunted tigers daily, were to 
>suddenly be faced with one, who would survive this crisis?


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