bill!..that's just sheer crap crap " suffering...bullshit stuff..i mean real suffering!..what do you take me for?..an airhead?..merle
Merle, Well, I thought I was clarifying. I'll try again... What Buddhism means by 'suffering' is like feeling sorry for yourself. Or suffering because your neighbor just bought a new Mercedes and all you have is a 2-year old Acura. That kind of 'suffering'. Buddhism (and zen) do promise you can escape from that kind of suffering. That's all...Bill! --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > bill!..clarify please..merle > >  > Merle, > > Joe is correct here, but just to clarify a little... > > 'Suffering' is not physical pain. 'Suffering' caused by physical pain would > be feeling sorry for yourself because you can't do something you want to do > because your knees hurt. 'Suffering' as used in Buddhism is very much akin > to 'disappointment' and carries with it an aura of attachment. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@> wrote: > > > > Merle, > > > > Yet, this is what the Buddha discovered, and what the Buddha taught. > > > > I think it's true that pain is guaranteed in life. It starts at birth. > > But Agony is optional. The difference is stark, and very, very real. > > > > I don't blame you, questioning what the Buddha taught. The only way to > > convince yourself of the truth of it is to practice. I bet you never > > thought you'd ever be able to stay on a bicycle the first time you tried to > > ride one! And I bet you got the hang of it, and can make it go down the > > road pretty straight. > > > > --Joe > > > > > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > my understanding is suffering cannot be eliminated..how the hell can that > > > come about..the very nature of life is suffering... > > > point to me who does not what does not..be it animal mineral or > > > vegetable.. > > > the notion of happy happy is absurd.. > > > we can come to terms with suffering > > > we can embrace and realise that compassion and eternal universal love can > > > lift us from suffering and soar us high above the treetops to the heavens > > > above just as the eagle flies we too can fly.. > > >
