Bill,

I agree. Do you disagree with my agreement?

Edgar



On May 2, 2013, at 2:57 AM, Bill! wrote:

> Merle,
> 
> Joe is correct here, but just to clarify a little...
> 
> 'Suffering' is not physical pain. 'Suffering' caused by physical pain would 
> be feeling sorry for yourself because you can't do something you want to do 
> because your knees hurt. 'Suffering' as used in Buddhism is very much akin to 
> 'disappointment' and carries with it an aura of attachment.
> 
> ...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote:
> >
> > Merle,
> > 
> > Yet, this is what the Buddha discovered, and what the Buddha taught.
> > 
> > I think it's true that pain is guaranteed in life. It starts at birth. But 
> > Agony is optional. The difference is stark, and very, very real.
> > 
> > I don't blame you, questioning what the Buddha taught. The only way to 
> > convince yourself of the truth of it is to practice. I bet you never 
> > thought you'd ever be able to stay on a bicycle the first time you tried to 
> > ride one! And I bet you got the hang of it, and can make it go down the 
> > road pretty straight.
> > 
> > --Joe
> > 
> > > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> > >
> > > my understanding is suffering cannot be eliminated..how the hell can that 
> > > come about..the very nature of life is suffering... 
> > > point to me who does not what does not..be it animal mineral or 
> > > vegetable..
> > > the notion of happy happy is absurd..
> > > we can come to terms with suffering
> > > we can embrace and realise that compassion and eternal universal love can 
> > > lift us from suffering and soar us high above the treetops to the heavens 
> > > above just as the eagle flies we too can fly..
> >
> 
> 

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