we await the zen wording from edgar..
merle Merle, As usual I'm not exactly sure what Edgar means when he says 'Zen', but I could add that zazen (zen meditation) is not the only facet of zen practice (if that's what Edgar means by 'Zen'). Any activity can be zen practice - like washing the dishes or taking out the garbage - or in your case painting. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > Merle, > > Correct. Zen is 24/7. Not 2-3 hours a week.... > > Edgar > > > > On May 1, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > > > > > I was thinking that what edgar means..correct me if incorrect please > > edgar.. > > > > you get these dudes going to retreats, etc..going to christian churches etc > > and they think hey presto that's it..done my bit.. > > > > i'm now squeaky clean so to speak..full of self righteousness..and how many > > times have we witnessed this?... > > > > one needs to practise 24/7 in the real world... > > > > in the so called supermarket... > > > > the compassion and universal oneness and interconnection that one > > experienced in the sitting surely...?... > > > > you can sit till you drop..you can go to sermon after sermon however if > > nothing "sinks in" then it becomes a farce... > > meaningless "bullshit" just for appearances and to satisfy some ego hungry > > soul... merle.. > > > > whoops sorry group..no soul..just a very hungry ego > > > > > > Merle, > > > > "24/7" ? > > > > Some -- many -- attend retreat, and sit that way. But maybe they don't open > > this time. They -- we! -- keep practicing, and keep coming back to retreat. > > This is called practice. It's all practice. If we keep it simple, and are > > dedicated, it is practice. There is no "opening" the mind. There is just > > attending to your method of practice. Will the mind open? Maybe. But that's > > not something to attend to. Only the Method. If the mind "opens", you'll > > *experience* THEN what that means. We must not assume we know what that > > means. We DON'T know. Even when it opens. > > > > --Joe > > > > > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > edgar...it's still quality of sitting..as he says he has the "empty > > > cup"..you might sit 24/7 and it would be useless if you did not open your > > > mind surely?...merle > > > > > > > > > > >
