gooblegook to me ....i'm not a mathematician...please de code..merle
Merle, Why wait? Here is one of Edgar's previous answers to "What is Zen?" ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Merle Lester wrote: > > > > Â we await the zen wording from edgar.. > > merle > > > Â > Merle, > > As usual I'm not exactly sure what Edgar means when he says 'Zen', but I > could add that zazen (zen meditation) is not the only facet of zen practice > (if that's what Edgar means by 'Zen'). Any activity can be zen practice - > like washing the dishes or taking out the garbage - or in your case painting. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen edgarowen@ wrote: > > > > Merle, > > > > Correct. Zen is 24/7. Not 2-3 hours a week.... > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > On May 1, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I was thinking that what edgar means..correct me if incorrect please > > > edgar.. > > > > > > you get these dudes going to retreats, etc..going to christian churches > > > etc and they think hey presto that's it..done my bit.. > > > > > > i'm now squeaky clean so to speak..full of self righteousness..and how > > > many times have we witnessed this?... > > > > > > one needs to practise 24/7 in the real world... > > > > > > in the so called supermarket... > > > > > > the compassion and universal oneness and interconnection that one > > > experienced in the sitting surely...?... > > > > > > you can sit till you drop..you can go to sermon after sermon however if > > > nothing "sinks in" then it becomes a farce... > > > meaningless "bullshit" just for appearances and to satisfy some ego > > > hungry soul... merle.. > > > > > > whoops sorry group..no soul..just a very hungry ego > > > > > > > > > Merle, > > > > > > "24/7" ? > > > > > > Some -- many -- attend retreat, and sit that way. But maybe they don't > > > open this time. They -- we! -- keep practicing, and keep coming back to > > > retreat. This is called practice. It's all practice. If we keep it > > > simple, and are dedicated, it is practice. There is no "opening" the > > > mind. There is just attending to your method of practice. Will the mind > > > open? Maybe. But that's not something to attend to. Only the Method. If > > > the mind "opens", you'll *experience* THEN what that means. We must not > > > assume we know what that means. We DON'T know. Even when it opens. > > > > > > --Joe > > > > > > > Merle Lester wrote: > > > > > > > > edgar...it's still quality of sitting..as he says he has the "empty > > > > cup"..you might sit 24/7 and it would be useless if you did not open > > > > your mind surely?...merle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
