Merle,
Why wait? Here is one of Edgar's previous answers to "What is Zen?"
[C_z(y)=\sum_{k=1}^\infty b_k z^{k}.]
...Bill!
--- In [email protected], Merle Lester wrote:
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> As usual I'm not exactly sure what Edgar means when he says 'Zen', but
I could add that zazen (zen meditation) is not the only facet of zen
practice (if that's what Edgar means by 'Zen'). Any activity can be zen
practice - like washing the dishes or taking out the garbage - or in
your case painting.
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> --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen edgarowen@ wrote:
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> > Correct. Zen is 24/7. Not 2-3 hours a week....
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> > On May 1, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Merle Lester wrote:
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> > > I was thinking that what edgar means..correct me if incorrect
please edgar..
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> > > you get these dudes going to retreats, etc..going to christian
churches etc and they think hey presto that's it..done my bit..
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> > > i'm now squeaky clean so to speak..full of self righteousness..and
how many times have we witnessed this?...
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> > > one needs to practise 24/7 in the real world...
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> > > in the so called supermarket...
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> > > the compassion and universal oneness and interconnection that one
experienced in the sitting surely...?...
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> > > you can sit till you drop..you can go to sermon after sermon
however if nothing "sinks in" then it becomes a farce...
> > > meaningless "bullshit" just for appearances and to satisfy some
ego hungry soul... merle..
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> > > whoops sorry group..no soul..just a very hungry ego
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> > > "24/7" ?
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> > > Some -- many -- attend retreat, and sit that way. But maybe they
don't open this time. They -- we! -- keep practicing, and keep coming
back to retreat. This is called practice. It's all practice. If we keep
it simple, and are dedicated, it is practice. There is no "opening" the
mind. There is just attending to your method of practice. Will the mind
open? Maybe. But that's not something to attend to. Only the Method. If
the mind "opens", you'll *experience* THEN what that means. We must not
assume we know what that means. We DON'T know. Even when it opens.
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> > > > Merle Lester wrote:
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> > > > edgar...it's still quality of sitting..as he says he has the
"empty cup"..you might sit 24/7 and it would be useless if you did not
open your mind surely?...merle
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