Bill,

You are talking about a particular approach to practicing Zen...

I'm referring to the essence of Zen, which is what JMJM was referring to and 
correctly describing...

Edgar


On May 19, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Bill! wrote:

> JMJM and Edgar,
> 
> I don't know about Chan, but zen is a human practice that assists in 
> balancing the interplay between Human Nature and Buddha Nature. I went on to 
> describe it in more detail in a recent post.
> 
> It is not everything. It is a practice. There are human activities that are 
> not part of that practice.
> 
> ...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
> >
> > JMJM,
> > 
> > That's my understanding too. That's how I use the word though I usually 
> > refer to it as Zen.
> > 
> > It's not something confined to any sect, temple or teacher though it may be 
> > recognized and taught therein. 
> > 
> > Chan or Zen is just a name for the fundamental reality of the world. But 
> > the name is not the reality, it just references the reality...
> > 
> > Edgar
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On May 19, 2013, at 9:08 AM, 覺妙精明 (JMJM) wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi Mike,
> > > 
> > > Chan is the absolute and most fundamental dharma. Chan is the essence of 
> > > all and everything.
> > > Chan can be expressed with any kind of word or no word at all.
> > > 
> > > JM
> > > 
> > > On 5/19/2013 1:00 AM, uerusuboyo@... wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> Would it be fair to say that Cha'n still retains more of its original 
> > >> Indian Mahayana flavour than Japanese Zen? At least in it's outward 
> > >> expression, if not in its stories. I can almost smell the incense from 
> > >> here! ( meant respectfully).
> > >> 
> > >> With cheeks together, on a chair,
> > >> 
> > >> Mike
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
> > >> 
> > >> From: Joe <desert_woodworker@...>; 
> > >> To: <[email protected]>; 
> > >> Subject: [Zen] Re: What is Enlightenment? 
> > >> Sent: Sun, May 19, 2013 5:26:17 AM 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> JMJM,
> > >> 
> > >> Well done. Well expressed. Be well. Please take good care.
> > >> 
> > >> Hands together, and with bow,
> > >> 
> > >> --Joe
> > >> 
> > >> > <chan.jmjm@> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Everything we truly seek belongs to heart, i.e. peace, happiness, 
> > >> > etc.
> > >> > 
> > >> > Enhance the sensitivity of our heart. Accept all as is. Surpass the 
> > >> > realm of desire, form and formlessness. Sync with the universal wisdom 
> > >> > through our heart is the key to enlightenment.
> > >> > 
> > >> > with palms together,
> > >> > jm
> > >> 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> >
> 
> 

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