Mike,

I'm on board.  I see your point:  Why be called something for which there's no 
indication anyway.  It's superfluous and back-handed.

I'm also a Santa-denier (but not to my youngest Niece).

I am a Klingon-hater!  (ooh, shocking!).

So I say atheism is a neutral-grey feature I wear.  I personally don't care 
that people KNOW, as long as they do.  It's not a political statement I make, 
but a spiritual one: I state that my spirit is its own, and can be your own, if 
only a god has nothing to do with it.  God implies too much ownership: by God.  
And no sharing by us who are the ones who share everything.  Granted, this is a 
Buddhist view, or there may be other traditions who share it with us.

Thus, I think I make a little bigger deal about it than you do, Mike, OVERTLY.  
I'm "out" about it.  You don't care to be.  A closet- Atheist!: good to MEET 
you!  Always a new beast-ie, if we live long enough.

No, man, don't let me rag on ya; I unnastan'.  Well done.

--Joe

> uerusuboyo@... wrote:
>
> Joe, The idea of a Creator God who personally intervenes on our behalf is a 
> meta-physical and/or superstitious idea that gets more credence by having a 
> proper-noun label for those that don't believe in said idea. That's my point 
> about not having a label for those of us who don't believe in leprechauns or 
> a flat-earth etc. I just don't see any evidence for one (a personal god) and 
> giving me a label gives the idea a status it doesn't deserve (compared to 
> other ideas with absolutely no evidence or necessity). People who just use 
> the label 'God' as a shorthand for something other than a personal god (such 
> as 'universal energy', Love, Ground of Being etc.) isn't the "God" I'm 
> talking about.



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