Merle, Is that little third eye you think you see reality through the one in your underpants? :-)
Edgar On May 23, 2013, at 1:31 AM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > yes bill.. > you are indeed patient and kind > thank you once again... > your clarification helps me no end > > i see now with my little eye.."the third eye" > > merle > > > Merle, > > You brain (mind/intellect) is not 'washed clean' but your attachments to your > illusions (artifacts of the intellect) are dissolved - or at least weakened. > Like's been said before it's not an all or nothing instantaneous process. > > You still have the illusions, the thoughts and maybe even the urges you had > from 'brain washing' but you know they are illusory and don't have to act on > them. > > ...Bill! > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > > > > > >  mike... > > > > if ya enlightened would not the brain be "washed" clean?.... > > the task is to remove the "brain washing by others and think and feel for > > oneself surely?..merle > > > > > >  > > Merle, > > > > Aren't we all! > > > > Mike > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...>; > > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com>; > > Subject: [Zen] look in your mirror > > Sent: Thu, May 23, 2013 3:40:53 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > >  mike..what do ya expect from the average americano... > > from what i can gather are all brain washed ...merle > > > > > >  > > > > Joe, > > > > Is it true that a majority in the States believe the earth is less than > > 5000 years old? I've hear the teaching of Evolution gets a rough ride in > > schools over there - in both religious schools _and_ government schools. > > Scary. > > > > Mike > > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Joe <desert_woodworker@...>; > > To: <Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com>; > > Subject: [Zen] Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not > > more intelligent > > Sent: Wed, May 22, 2013 5:38:57 PM > > > > > >  > > Mike, > > > > Considering how small a deal it is for me, I don't see how it can be much > > less consequential elsewhere; but, "Thus have I heard". > > > > It's true that many people in the States are too-literal interpreters of > > "The Book". It's shocking to me. Even my family -- and me, once -- as > > Catholics, were not literal interpreters, and neither were our Clergy. > > > > I think the nut-jobs are in the Protestant wing of the faith, because they > > choose to think independently and to protest against orthodoxy and > > authority, and so of course are FREE -- and have been free for centuries -- > > to come up with all sorts of wild interpretations, and entirely new > > Churches, and experimental lifestyles ...including the use of poisonous > > snakes in services, and a belief in Bishop Usher's cosmology and age of the > > Earth. You wouldn't find that stuff in our old Italian-American > > conservative parish! > > > > Keep in mind, too, Mike, that America was settled, and her Laws written, by > > immigrants who sought religious freedom, and not necessarily freedom from > > religion (say, the freedom to be atheists). So the profusion of "religious" > > drama in USA is woven into the territory. > > > > Personally I'd like to see Darwin on any US currency, front or back. I note > > that Darwin has not ever appeared even on a US postage stamp! > > > > Richard Wagner was never so honored here, yet, either: and TODAY is > > Wagner's 200th birthday, by the way (May 22). > > > > (Honus Wagner, a baseball player, was honored with a 33-cent stamp, issued > > in the year 2000). > > > > I reserve comment. > > > > --Joe > > > > > uerusuboyo@ wrote: > > > > > > Joe,<br/><br/>I wonder if its a bigger deal for you because you live in > > > the State? Your side of the pond not only has a larger population of > > > religious nut-jobs, but these zealots also hold positions of power and > > > influence. Over this side (and I include Europe and other Commonwealth > > > countries), religion is something kind of quaint and archaic (at least it > > > was until the Jihadists became more vocal). Case in point, most British > > > politicians would be kicked/laughed out of office if they denied > > > evolution. Ah, did you know that Charles Darwin is celebrated by having > > > his portrait grace the back of a £10 note? Imagine that in the US! > > > > > > >