Mike and JMJM,

Mike, Thanks for this link.  I pulled up the article will wait to read it until 
JMJM says he thinks it's worthwhile doing so.  I don't want to have 3 or 4 
versions of Ch'an rolling around in my head.  The mix we get here on the Zen 
Forum about zen is confusion enough, and I trust JMJM's insight and knowledge 
on Ch'an.

JMJM, If you would please read the article cited below and tell me what you 
think of it.  It's looks pretty thorough.  It's by Ch'an Master Sheng-yen 
(1977) if that helps you make that determination without reading it.

Thanks...Bill!

--- In [email protected], uerusuboyo@... wrote:
>
> Joe,<br/><br/>http://www.abuddhistlibrary.com/Buddhism/C%20-%20Zen/Modern%20Teachers/Sheng%20Yen/What%20is%20Ch%27an/What%20is%20Ch%27an%20-%20Master%20Sheng-yen.htm<br/><br/>Found
>  this online and thought you might be interested. It was originally written 
> as a pamphlet to be handed out, but was then lost. Someone found one of these 
> old pamphlets and thought it was so good it should be shared. Even if you've 
> read it before.. Enjoy!<br/><br/>Mike<br/><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for 
> iPad
>



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