Mike, Correct. Actually in Roman times the very reason that Christians were hated by everyone else is not that they had a different God but because they denied all the other Gods.
Thus Christians were loathed because they were considered atheists because they denied all other Gods... Edgar On May 21, 2013, at 8:45 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Merle, > > I'm one of those who don't believe in a personal god and detest being called > an "atheist" for this lack of belief. A god who suspends the Laws of Nature > for us personally is as likely as a fairy coming in the middle of the night > to put money under the pillow as a reward for leaving a tooth there (There's > more evidence for the latter..). We don't have labels for those who don't > believe in this generous and mouth-care aware fairy, just as we don't have > labels for those who don't believe in horoscopes or leprechauns etc. So why > the label for those who don't believe in this personal god? Christians who > don't believe in The Rainbow Serpent are atheists to those who do believe, > which illustrates just how ridiculous the label is. > > Mike > > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad > > From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>; > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; > Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not > more intelligent > Sent: Tue, May 21, 2013 11:26:52 PM > > > > > edgar... > you had no right to send this to zen group..as it was posted to the evo > group... > > never the less...you are forgiven > > i was referring to atheism... > > yes i know we are all one and the same creature : human so be it them or us > no different.. > i get tired of hearing that atheists are supposedly a cut above religiously > inclined folk... > it's a stupid argument as both atheists and religious folk have committed > horrendous sins... > war and power mongers come in many colours of human > and will do what ever it takes > to assert themselves and > rule over others > that is the nature of the BIG EGO coupled with stupidity! > > > > and i am well aware : e.g. george w bush sending young american men to iraq > to be slaughter for what cause? bullshit > > merle > > > Merle, > > What is this dumb buzz phrase "do to his own people"? Is it somehow better to > kill people you don't own than ones you do? It really annoys me to hear this > phrase all the time on US TV like it makes someone worse than people who kill > other people's people... > > Edgar > > > > On May 21, 2013, at 6:12 PM, merle lester wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> how many atheists would do what stalin did to his own people?...think >> again, there are other atheists who willingly mass starve, slaughter and >> torture ...merle >> >> >> >> >> >> On 21/05/2013, at 9:25 PM, Steve Corsini wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> How many atheists would strap on a load of explosives and blow up themself >>> and many other completely innocent people? >>> >>> How many atheists would load a car or truck with explosives and park it in >>> a busy market place and murder innocent shoppers? >>> >>> SJC >>> >>> >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of michael >>> haaheim >>> Sent: Tuesday, 21 May 2013 3:16 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not more >>> intelligent >>> >>> >>> Nor is the matter of IQ and atheism so simple. Nor is the level of >>> atheism/theism well established. How many of the theists are strong >>> believers? How many are literal believers? How many are believers vs >>> observers (those who follow the rituals simply because their family always >>> has, and can not imagine doing otherwise)? How many have actually read and >>> studied the entirety of the Bible, or respective holy books? How do the >>> atheists define themselves? >>> Then there is the matter that intelligence is a personal matter. Any >>> national measurement is going to be skewed. >>> In any case,the real problem is not atheism vs theism. The problem is >>> having an open mind. The majority of history's greatest thinkers were >>> theists of some kind... however, many, if not most, of those also were >>> known to be very controversial... many were persecuted by the leaders of >>> their religions. What made them great thinkers was their ability to >>> question. >>> It is often not understood that many atheists suffer the same curse as the >>> theists... those who close their minds to possibilities can not be great >>> thinkers, because great thinking requires an open mind. Over zealous >>> atheists will be as empty as overzealous theists. >>> But here's the problem... theists tend to be indoctrinated to closed minds: >>> they are taught never to question their God, not their holy scriptures, nor >>> their priests. They are taught to have blind faith. Those that adhere to >>> such religious doctrine CAN NOT be strong thinkers, because thinking and >>> creativity REQUIRE the opposite. >>> Atheists have no such indictrination. However, some have a blind hatred >>> against theism, which, as I said, has the same effect of limiting the mind. >>> >>> >>> De : Albert Himoe <[email protected]> >>> À : "[email protected]" >>> <[email protected]> >>> Envoyé le : Mardi 21 mai 2013 4h33 >>> Objet : Re: [evol-psych] The correct statistics: Atheists are not more >>> intelligent >>> >>> >>> Nils K. wrote >>> >Let us as effectively as possible kill the lie that atheists >>> >are more intelligent than non-atheists. >>> >Research all over the world shows that this is a myth. >>> >>> Can you cite such research? I see no myth. >>> >>> Your figures clearly show a negative correlation between religious belief >>> and national IQ, however. >>> Every country with a national IQ of 90 or below had less than 10% atheists, >>> whereas all 4 [Asian] >>> countries with a national IQ >102 had at least 13% atheists. No sane person >>> contends that IQ is the only factor which is associated with atheism. >>> >>> >In Norway (see below), >>> >for example only some 69 percent believe in the Bible, >>> >but the number of believers in a Creator God is probably much higher >>> >>> What is the basis for your statement that the figure for Norway actually >>> represents belief in the Bible, not belief in God? >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > >
