Merle, Talk about arrogance. YOu think YOU know what all teen girls want and if they don't want what you imagine you want you want to force it on them.
By contrast I don't care what they want or pretend to know. I leave it up to each of them to be free to make their own decisions.. That is compassion, and that is Zen because I have none of the attachments to their decisions that you do.... Edgar On May 25, 2013, at 11:03 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > edgar...get this..i'm not jealous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! revelation to you eh?...ask > the young teen girls...what they want..you don't even know any do you..most > woman have their own careers now..they don't want the crap you are putting > down here..grow up... and get over it... you really have no idea..did you > have any daughters?..merle > > Mike, > > Exactly. Romeo was in his 20's or more and Juliet was 14. Pocahontas was 12 > or 13 when she took up with John Smith who was what? Late 20's or 30's? The > horrible ageism that destroys so many lives now days is a modern anomaly > dating from when women got the vote and used it to criminalize adult male sex > with young teenage girls they knew were more attractive on average to their > men. > > It's all about female jealousy trying to eliminate competition from younger > more attractive women. It is NOT about protective young teens if it requires > consent. > > It was and has been standard practice for teen girls to fall in love and > marry considerably older men throughout history. It's entirely natural > because older men are more successful and better able to care for a family, > and by marrying younger women men are able to ensure more and more healthy > children on average. > > It's entirely natural, and it is best for society as a whole because it > encourages more stable and healthy families, no matter what old jealous > biddies like Merle say... > > Edgar > > > > On May 25, 2013, at 8:51 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >> >> Merle, >> >> I've 3 kids including a daughter and my youngest son is 15. The problem I >> see following your argument is that you're trying to put a 60+ year head on >> a teenager's body. We've all done stupid things when we were kids that we >> regret and wouldn't dream of doing now as adults. But there's only a >> potential 2 year age gap between these kids. I think Bill is right. If this >> was about 2 heterosexual kids there'd be no fuss. Imagine how many schools >> have such relationships? Also, the age thing is totally arbitrary. Imagine >> going to Papua New Guinea and complaining about the same age difference >> between two village members.. >> >> Mike >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad >> >> From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>; >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; >> Subject: Re: [Zen] The desperate Kate >> Sent: Sat, May 25, 2013 12:41:45 PM >> >> >> >> >> mike..well come to australia sydney..moderate muslims do speak up!.. >> i care little for whether kate is a criminal or not,, >> she knows the law..and she was so desperate with desire she could not >> wait... >> it's not the buddhist way... >> in her own mind how does she feel... >> jesus at 15...for christ sake i keep harping on about childhood and >> innocence.. >> did you experience the beauty of childhood and innocence..? >> do you have any kids?..do you understand what i am saying?... >> we have a lifetime to be adults in an adult world.. >> childhood and innocence is a fleeting moment... >> it is very precious... >> let's not rush ourselves head first all guns firing into adulthood and >> responsibilities... >> let's play a little let's have fun..innocent and free... >> that is why there are the laws to protect the innocent.. >> do you get it?... >> merle >> >> >> Merle, >> >> An act is illegal if there is a law prohibiting it. If you do that act you >> have committed a crime. If you're convicted of that crime by a court (which >> is what Tim is trying to prevent) then you are a 'criminal'. If you approve >> of that law (and you most certainly appear to), then you will by default be >> making the 18 year old a criminal. >> >> You could well be right about my judging of Islam, but I'm yet to be >> convinced by your argument, or anyone elses here, that I'm wrong. The >> evidence supporting my argument can be seen everyday all over the world. >> I've yet to see moderate Muslims protesting on the street that their >> religion is being hijacked by evil mean wrongfully killing in the name of >> their God. >> >> Mike >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad >> >> From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>; >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; >> Subject: Re: [Zen] The desperate Kate >> Sent: Sat, May 25, 2013 12:19:37 PM >> >> >> >> mike.. >> >> did i say they were criminals?..who's judging now?.. >> >> don't you think this kinda thing happens on this side of the planet?... >> sure they may be friends..so how come everybody knows?... eh..keep it >> quiet..who squealed?... >> it is illegal in australia...the 15 year old is too young...what happened to >> innocence?... >> so kate at 18 is so desperate she can't wait? huh? >> don't give the shit about it happens regardless and why not?... >> >> a rational mind..come on edgar..this is where we use common sense and >> rational thinking do not let our instincts run away with us... >> >> mike this applies to dames and blokes in the back of the car and then get >> pregnant..mindlessness..rush rush in and just do it..never thinking what >> lies ahead... >> just plain stupid... all for what a bit of hopeless stumbling and fumbling >> in the dark ... >> >> in america and ireland..no abortion in many places and the catholic men >> preaching no pill no pill...plain stupid.. >> if that's been judgemental be it so... >> >> don't tell me you don't judge mike... >> your not santa claus with your sack of toys from greenland... >> your human like the rest of us on this forum... >> prone to judge.. >> >> prone to think ya right.. >> >> prone to criticise when what's been said doesn't suit your doctrines and >> your self made mantras... >> >> you made that bright and clear in your observations of islam... >> take a step back.. >> might those folk you so put into the basket as terrorists may they not be >> better called fundamentalists.. >> they come in many shades and colours and creeds... and include zen >> buddhists! >> one size cap doeth not fit all... >> >> now my turn to ring the gong... >> >> amen... >> >> merle >> >> Merle, >> >> Why be so quick to judge when we don't know the facts. They sound like >> they're school friends and might have had some kind of relationship for >> sometime. Why should someone on the other side of the planet (that's you) >> feel like they have the right to judge either of them as criminal? I thought >> you'd be against that kind of judgmentalism. >> >> Mike >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad >> >> From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>; >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; >> Subject: Re: [Zen] The desperate Kate >> Sent: Sat, May 25, 2013 9:08:06 AM >> >> >> >> >> it's illegal here hetro or homo... and for god sake..as i keep saying so >> desperate was kate?..merle >> >> Merle, >> >> It's illegal in the USA too. That's why she's being charged with felonies - >> probably statutory rape, corruption of a minor or child abuse. >> >> Tim and the people objecting to this say this would not be being prosecuted >> if it were a heterosexual relationship and is only being pursued because of >> the homosexual aspect. >> >> ...Bill! >> >> --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > Â she's 18 and the other is 15...illegal in australia!.... excuse me could >> > she not wait till the kiddy turned 16...so desperate!..merle >> > >> > >> > Â >> > Â Do people here know about the Free Kate Campaign? If not see >> > www.freekate.net >> > Kaitlyn Hunt, 18,who made international headlines after being charged with >> > felonies for her same-sex relationship with a 15-year-old peer, has >> > refused a plea deal offered by the state attorney's office, according to >> > CBS affiliate WPEC. Under the state attorney's deal, Hunt would have been >> > labeled a sex offender and placed on two years' house arrest. >> > >> > Go to http://www.change.org/freekate to sign the petition. 280,500+ signed >> > by 5/25. FB page has 49,600 members. It goes on in every school and only >> > gets >> > prosecuted when the parents hate the older one. The law was meant for >> > predators and not lovers. The punishment is a lifetime sentence. Thanks. >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
