> Huh.  I would have thought it could arise without "me"... but now I'm not
> sure.  Is it inherently subjective... is anything inherently
> subjective?  What about vision, eye-consciousness... that certainly arises
> without "me"... right? lol  I don't understand anything. :)  Is this
> something special about feelings that you are pointing out?  Or does this
> apply to all experience whatsoever?

Nothing special about feelings. It was just what came up as part of the earlier 
discussion. 

> What about vision, eye-consciousness... that certainly arises without "me"... 
> right? lol

Does it? How would you know? Seer/seeing/seen. 

David


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