> Ok - something is not adding up for me here.  When I put "me" in quotes
> like that, I am referring to the constructed self-grasping - the idea of "I
> am".  This is not an essential component of awareness at all.  It can be
> abandoned.  I am not referring to the aggregates (which includes the
> physical eyes).
> 
> After enlightenment, the Buddha, Zen Masters, and others still see, hear,
> feel and function normally, obviously.  But they are completely free of
> self-grasping constructions, unlike others, who still have this.  How does
> this fit in with what you are saying?

Before I answer this, what do you consider an essential component of awareness? 

David

P.S. I'm enjoying our conversation. :-)
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