"ad hominem" is not out of place. You don't plan your foreign policy based on what a stinker some foreign head of government/state is. You'd have to invade Canada and Britain if that were the case....
Jon Spencer wrote: > "Ad hominem" is an odd thing to put in here, and it is put in incorrectly, I > might add. > > But it appears to me that you chose to let things go until they get out of > hand, assuring us that they will not. I chose to support the view that they > are already out of hand and will get much worse. > > Saddam's character has been clearly shown in both his personal (child > molestation), his internal (killing MILLIONS of innocent people, 150,000+ by > WOMM) and his external (Iran, Kuwait, US, others) activities. > > It's a judgment call. We have made different judgments. It is our > responsibility to handle things in the temporal world, to protect the > innocent, wherever they may be. > > You appear to focus on Saddam. I chose to focus on his millions of victims. > > We just have different points of view. Neither of us can predict which > course of action will have the most negative consequences, or the most > positive. However, from my perspective, the opportunities for a good > outcome are far greater if we chose to protect both ourselves and others. > The possibilities from this vantage point are (1) a freer Iraq, far fewer > people killed in the next 5 years, and (3) elimination of the very viable > threat to not only the US, but the entire world. > > Al Quaeda will do whatever it wants to do, regardless of what we do, unless > what we do is to (1) remove their state sponsors and (2) track them down. > (1) says that we must remove the Taliban from Afghanistan first [done], take > out Saddam next [in process], and then see what else must be done. > > You cannot expect to enjoy your freedoms, when there are others, quite well > motivated by Satan as well as by the natural man, who see YOU as both (1) a > threat to their plans to control people, and (2) a target. > > I think that there are many individual statements in this post that you > would concur with, as well as statements by me that you may think are > mischaracterizations of your position. I understand that you simply chose > to interpret the world in a different manner. > > The purpose of this post is to try to state from a high level what my > perspective is. > > Jon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc A. Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 2:23 PM > Subject: Re: [ZION] Elder Nelson misquoted > > First of all, I do not oppose the removal of Saddam Hussein from power -- > he's > every bit the tyrant that people say he is. What I oppose is a foreign > country, a > superpower who think they have a mandate to police the world, deciding whom > to > take out and who to leave in charge (if Hussein, why not al-Assad and > Mussharaf, > as I keep asking). > > Secondly, the comments about Bush were *in response* to your ad hominem > attack on > Saddam. Again, the point is, I'm sure what you say about Saddam is right. > But > that's not the point. It's what should be done about it that's the point. > > ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland "The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark." --Michelangelo Buonarroti Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the author solely; its contents do not necessarily reflect those of the author�s employer, nor those of any organization with which the author may be associated. ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ==^^=============================================================== This email was sent to: [email protected] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===============================================================
