While I agree with you regarding righteous wars, I don't necessarily agree 
with your statement that "Zion doesn't expand through warfare 
anymore."  For instance, why has the Lord repeatedly stated that, after we 
have done our part, He would fight our battles.

--
Steven Montgomery

At 07:41 PM 10/14/2002, you wrote:
>The law is the same: a war is righteous if the Lord commands it (this is 
>in the
>BoM, the D&C and in numerous 1P statements). But since the meridian of 
>time there
>have been few, if any, such commandments. Zion doesn't expand through warfare
>anymore. That's what's meant by fulfilling the law. You don't overthrow 
>it. This
>objection (below) is similar to the reaction the Pharisees had to Jesus's 
>claims
>(nothing personal against Steven).
>
>Steven Montgomery wrote:
>
> > So, when the LORD declared unto Joshua that he had delivered the Amorites
> > into his hand or when the LORD himself cast down "great stones from heaven"
> > to slay the Amorites this was somehow fulfilling a lesser law? I fail to
> > understand how the Israelites were somehow keeping a lesser law when God
> > himself commanded them to slay the wicked and who occasionally (when the
> > Israelites were righteous) fought their battles.
> >
> > --
> > Steven Montgomery
> >
> > At 01:07 PM 10/14/2002, you wrote:
> > >And Christ came to fulfill the OT law and offer a higher law. (IOW, use
> > >the term
> > >"Bible" less categorically and I think you'll see a stark contrast between
> > >OT and
> > >NT ideas).
> > >
> > >Jon Spencer wrote:
> > >
> > > > John W. Redelfs wrote:
> > > > > Actually, the only time the Nephites went on a search and destroy
> > > mission,
> > > > > following the Gadiantons up into the mountains, they were soundly
> > > defeated
> > > > > and had to withdraw.  The Book of Mormon is the story of national
> > > DEFENSE,
> > > > > not offense.  --JWR
> > > >
> > > > Your offense is my defense.
> > > >
> > > > And in the Bible, also God's word, there were many offensive 
> defenses put
> > > > up.
> > > >
> > > > Jon
> > > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >Marc A. Schindler
> > >Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland
> > >
> > >"The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too 
> high and
> > >falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark."
> > >--Michelangelo Buonarroti
> > >
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