And these are wars of expansion how, exactly? Utah taking over Colorado with the Lord's angels at the head of legions of BYU sophomores?
Johnson's Army was a long time ago. We are not beset by the kind of situation that the Israelites were. Steven Montgomery wrote: > While I agree with you regarding righteous wars, I don't necessarily agree > with your statement that "Zion doesn't expand through warfare > anymore." For instance, why has the Lord repeatedly stated that, after we > have done our part, He would fight our battles. > > -- > Steven Montgomery > > At 07:41 PM 10/14/2002, you wrote: > >The law is the same: a war is righteous if the Lord commands it (this is > >in the > >BoM, the D&C and in numerous 1P statements). But since the meridian of > >time there > >have been few, if any, such commandments. Zion doesn't expand through warfare > >anymore. That's what's meant by fulfilling the law. You don't overthrow > >it. This > >objection (below) is similar to the reaction the Pharisees had to Jesus's > >claims > >(nothing personal against Steven). > > > >Steven Montgomery wrote: > > > > > So, when the LORD declared unto Joshua that he had delivered the Amorites > > > into his hand or when the LORD himself cast down "great stones from heaven" > > > to slay the Amorites this was somehow fulfilling a lesser law? I fail to > > > understand how the Israelites were somehow keeping a lesser law when God > > > himself commanded them to slay the wicked and who occasionally (when the > > > Israelites were righteous) fought their battles. > > > > > > -- > > > Steven Montgomery > > > > > > At 01:07 PM 10/14/2002, you wrote: > > > >And Christ came to fulfill the OT law and offer a higher law. (IOW, use > > > >the term > > > >"Bible" less categorically and I think you'll see a stark contrast between > > > >OT and > > > >NT ideas). > > > > > > > >Jon Spencer wrote: > > > > > > > > > John W. Redelfs wrote: > > > > > > Actually, the only time the Nephites went on a search and destroy > > > > mission, > > > > > > following the Gadiantons up into the mountains, they were soundly > > > > defeated > > > > > > and had to withdraw. The Book of Mormon is the story of national > > > > DEFENSE, > > > > > > not offense. --JWR > > > > > > > > > > Your offense is my defense. > > > > > > > > > > And in the Bible, also God's word, there were many offensive > > defenses put > > > > > up. > > > > > > > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >Marc A. Schindler > > > >Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland > > > > > > > >"The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too > > high and > > > >falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark." > > > >--Michelangelo Buonarroti > > > > > > > >Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the > > author > > > >solely; its contents do not necessarily reflect those of the author's > > > >employer, > > > >nor those of any organization with which the author may be associated. > > > > > > > >/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > ////// > > > >/// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > > > >/// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > > > >/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > ////// > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Steven Montgomery > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > <HTML> > > > <BODY> > > > <a href="http://www.getusout.org";><img border="0" > > > src="http://www.getusout.org/images/guolink.gif";></a> > > > <P><P><BR> > > > </BODY> > > > </HTML> > > > > > > > > ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > > > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > > > > > ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > > > > > >-- > >Marc A. 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