Rob Miller wrote: > Gary Poster wrote: >> This message seems like a reasonable start to me: "Zope 3 has become >> focused on supporting frameworks and applications, rather than trying >> to be one itself. It is now called the Zope Toolkit. Parts of it are >> used by Zope 2, Plone, Grok, Repoze.bfg, and by many other different >> applications and frameworks." > > indeed, this seems to me a very nice message. short, pretty much accurate > w/o > delving too much into the mind-numbing details. yes, there may be some folks > out there using the full Z3KGS as an app server, but those are the foks that > already understand what's going on. they're just another community of people > making good use of the Zope Toolkit.
Trying to put myself in the shoes of an outsider, I agree with Rob in agreeing with Gary. This is a message that makes sense. I think, unfortunately, there's just too much confusion in names and meaning in the other threads here, which makes any decision based on those names and meanings very, very risky. I do realise that this derails Maritjn's focus slightly, but I don't think we've lost the idea that there may be value in maintaining a larger KGS. That shouldn't be called 'Zope 3' though, it should be called something else, or maybe a set of something elses, like the 'Zope Toolkit App Server Bundle' and the 'Zope Toolkit Management UI Bundle'. Or something. > who knows, maybe the app-server-now-known-as-the-full-Z3KGS will grow in > popularity to the point where it decides to rebrand itself as a groovy new > platform. i'd recommend the name "Zapp". ;) Heh, you always were good with names, Rob. ;-) Martin -- Author of `Professional Plone Development`, a book for developers who want to work with Plone. See http://martinaspeli.net/plone-book _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )