Rob Miller wrote:
> Gary Poster wrote:
>> This message seems like a reasonable start to me: "Zope 3 has become
>> focused on supporting frameworks and applications, rather than trying
>> to be one itself. It is now called the Zope Toolkit. Parts of it are
>> used by Zope 2, Plone, Grok, Repoze.bfg, and by many other different
>> applications and frameworks."
> indeed, this seems to me a very nice message. short, pretty much accurate
> delving too much into the mind-numbing details. yes, there may be some folks
> out there using the full Z3KGS as an app server, but those are the foks that
> already understand what's going on. they're just another community of people
> making good use of the Zope Toolkit.
Trying to put myself in the shoes of an outsider, I agree with Rob in
agreeing with Gary. This is a message that makes sense. I think,
unfortunately, there's just too much confusion in names and meaning in
the other threads here, which makes any decision based on those names
and meanings very, very risky.
I do realise that this derails Maritjn's focus slightly, but I don't
think we've lost the idea that there may be value in maintaining a
larger KGS. That shouldn't be called 'Zope 3' though, it should be
called something else, or maybe a set of something elses, like the 'Zope
Toolkit App Server Bundle' and the 'Zope Toolkit Management UI Bundle'.
> who knows, maybe the app-server-now-known-as-the-full-Z3KGS will grow in
> popularity to the point where it decides to rebrand itself as a groovy new
> platform. i'd recommend the name "Zapp". ;)
Heh, you always were good with names, Rob. ;-)
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