Am 05.02.2010, 15:43 Uhr, schrieb Lennart Regebro <>:

> Well, getting and iframe implementation with some really nice looking
> CSS would be cool, indeed. I don't even think you need to get rid of
> DTML for that.

I'd prefer to do without frames altogether and, to be honest, I don't know  
why they've been kept in the specification. Presumably because in spite of  
all the associated problems (a client is pondering the use of an https  
iframe in an http page) they can bring a quick win without any "clever"  
server side stuff. Unfortunately you can't just add a dash of CSS to the  

Migrating from DTML to ZPT would add weight to the "dog food" argument and  
should be fairly straightforward. ZPT came on the scene shortly after I  
started playing with Zope and is one of the biggest reasons for me  
sticking with it. The ZMI is probably the last big dependent of DTML in  
Zope 2 so it would be nice to be able to remove that dependency for Zope  
2. On a related issue that is close to my heart: ZSQL. I'm sure I read of  
a related template (Smart Templates?) that would allow for minimal logic  
for SQL (I never use the SQL specific extensions to DTML apart from  
sqlvar) and similar languages but for the life of me I have not been able  
to find a trace of this. Did I imagine it?

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