The BMW UUC Digest
Volume 2 : Issue 308 : "text" Format
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re fitting caliper boot
Sears portable jack sale
USA Today: "Abandon all hope, ye who drive in Boston"
<E36> Limited test drive of '99 323iS today
Re: <E36> Limited test drive of '99 323iS today
Re: <E36> Limited test drive of '99 323iS today
Re: <E36> Limited test drive of '99 323iS today
DE openings available MidOhio
Re: running an auto-x
M coupe questions
Re: M coupe questions
Re: M coupe questions
Re: M coupe questions
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Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 19:32:50 -0600
From: "r.mackrill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: re fitting caliper boot
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To re install the telescoping rubber boot with steel ring into the
machined groove that encapsulates the piston.
turn inside out the outer surface of said boot to accommodate ring.
return shape to original with ring in place.
secure a thumb hold to seat leading edge.
work entire surface to secure total contact in said groove.
No can do yet.
Pause to beg the question if this is close to the correct procedure..
Randy Mackrill
Regina, SK
'86 535i
resting thumb and patience
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Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 22:24:24 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Sears portable jack sale
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Ok, I have been wanting a new portable jack and those aluminum ones from Harbor
Freight look real nice at $79. I was out tonight at Sear to get a 12 x 1.5 tap for my
track box just in case when i saw they had a sale on a bunch of stuff, including their
portable jack---$ 20. Ok, for 20 bucks, I can replace it annually. Its not ideal, but
my last one lasted 18 years.
Cheers,
Steve Rowe
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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 22:57:51 -0400
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ferrari List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "911" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"BMW List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: USA Today: "Abandon all hope, ye who drive in Boston"
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Abandon all hope, ye who drive in Boston
By Barbara De Lollis, USA TODAY
Boston's bridges, aging roadways, missing signs and crowded arteries have
complicated trips for business traveler Ray Thomas.
They've made him late for meetings, made him miss a flight and raised his
stress.
So it comes as no surprise to Thomas and others that a new national study
ranks metropolitan Boston as the USA's most difficult area to navigate by
car. (Related rankings: Driving in metro areas)
"And it was horrid before The Big Dig ever started," says Thomas, an
anti-fraud consultant from Tampa, referring to a massive public works
project to modernize the downtown highway system.
In a study to be released Tuesday, author-researcher Bert Sperling, known
for ranking cities on a wide array of criteria, lists the USA's 75 biggest
metropolitan areas according to how difficult they are to drive in. (Related
background: Criteria used in the rankings)
Tailgating Boston are Washington, D.C., San Francisco-Oakland, Baltimore and
New York/northern New Jersey.
Car rental company Avis and electronics giant Motorola commissioned the
study as Avis rolls out its navigation system in new markets. For $10 a day,
Avis offers Motorola's portable, satellite-based navigation system, with
live operator assistance, in the 60 largest markets. Competitors, including
Hertz, offer comparable systems.
Most of the trickiest metro areas to navigate are in the East, where many
communities developed before the automobile. Even though cities such as New
York are laid out in a straight-forward grid, factors such as bad weather,
congestion, bodies of water and sprawl hurt the score, Sperling says.
The study rates metro areas based on factors such as street layout; sprawl;
obstacles such as rivers, lakes and bridges; and congestion data calculated
by the Texas Transportation Institute. Each year, the institute rates cities
with the most congestion. Last year, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Denver,
Miami and Chicago topped the list.
To a lesser degree, the scores in Sperling's study reflect an area's rain
and snow days, and the simplicity of its route between downtown and the
airport. Sperling rated metro areas on a 100-point scale, assigning the
highest scores to those that are hardest to navigate.
Among his findings:
• Boston scored 86.9, the highest. Bakersfield, in California's flat Central
Valley, scored 9.2, the lowest.
• Florida had six metro areas in the upper half of the list. They include
Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood (No. 6), Jacksonville (No. 14) and Orlando (No.
15).
• Texas has nine metro areas rated, the most of any state. Most, however,
rank relatively low. Houston placed highest (No. 19), meaning it's the
hardest to navigate.
Tourism expert Parker Smith of Scottsdale, Ariz., says cities can help
visitors by investing in signs to identify airports, downtowns and other
popular destinations. Local sign committees should look at their communities
as a tourist or business traveler would, and adjust signs accordingly, he
says.
More than half of travelers bicker with a companion when they get lost,
according to a separate survey of 1,000 consumers also commissioned by Avis
and Motorola.
Women are more likely to stop to ask for directions: 64% vs. 41% of men.
To avoid the situation, some frequent travelers have traded in their paper
maps for technology. They say global positioning satellite devices ease
confusion quickly.
"Car rental maps are the pits, and heavy traffic is not the time to be
learning a new city," says sales consultant Jim Pancero of Eden Prairie,
Minn. He spent about $300 on GPS software for his laptop and a small
portable GPS receiver, giving him access to directions in most cities.
Still, John DiScala of Los Angeles says, it's important to have a backup
handy: a paper map or an Internet mapping site.
Twice last year when he was driving along St. Charles Street in New Orleans
(No. 40) to get to his hotel in the French Quarter, the GPS system in his
rental car gave him bad directions.
"Twice it took me to a bad part of town," says DiScala, who runs the
JohnnyJet.com travel Web site.
Not everyone wants technology to steer through a busy city. Sales engineer
Ed Groom of Taylors, S.C., simply surrenders when he's in Manhattan: "Just
get a taxi and relax. There isn't enough money to get me to try to navigate
(New York) there on my own."
Boston doesn't expect to be in Sperling's No. 1 spot for long.
"When the Big Dig is completed next year, it will make a dramatic impact on
how easily you are able to navigate the city of Boston," says Doug Hanchett,
Big Dig spokesman.
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Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 21:15:44 -0700
From: Tom Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: <E36> Limited test drive of '99 323iS today
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hello listers,
I've been on the list for a while and am looking for an E36, I
guess preferably a coupe with Sports package. A couple weeks ago I noticed
a BMW at a dealership in town, stopped in and took a look, but didn't take
it out for a test drive at that time. So, today I stopped in to talk to
the sales guy I'd talked to previously and take the car out for a test
drive.
Well, he didn't come in today, so I got a brand new guy. (This is
in Sierra Vista, AZ, btw, town of about 40k people, no BMW dealership
there, closest one is Don Mackey BMW in Tucson, about 70 miles away.) The
car was at another one of their dealerships, so he had to go retrieve it.
Once the car got there, while he was doing paperwork and making a copy of
my license, I opened up the hood (engine and all looked clean, but not
steam cleaned clean) and I couldn't find the remote trunk release (where is
it?) but I got in the car and started adjusting the seat.
To me, the car had a good amount of power (torque) and the clutch
and shifter felt good to me. Nice clutch feel (not too heavy not too
light) and the shifter throws felt short enough and positive, (I didn't
miss a shift and I didn't kill it, so you know something had to be right.)
I didn't have the occasion to throw the car around any corners, but
the steering felt responsive without being twitchy, I was pleased with
that. And, with my driving position saved, I ventured into the back seat
behind the driver and there was enough room for another "me sized" person
to sit comfortably with room to move my feet around a bit. The leather on
the seats seemed a bit hard, but of course that's only specific for this
particular car. The radio seemed a bit daunting, but I guess some time
with the manual would explain my questions, as well as the climate control
system. All in all, it was an enjoyable experience, I'm still kind of
worried about subframe and engine mount, etc. failures. Other than that,
I'd probably be just about ready to buy. Any other owner impressions out
there? Am I off base, on base, in the ballpark...?
Best regards,
Tom Reynolds
Hereford, AZ
P.S. I think the car I drove had around 33k miles, was as mentioned, a '99
323iS with the Sports package.
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 09:18:05 -0700
From: Jim Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: <E36> Limited test drive of '99 323iS today
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
At 09:15 PM 8/9/04, Tom Reynolds talked about:
> and I couldn't find the remote trunk release (where is
>it?)
There isn't one. The trunk opens with the pushbutton on the trunk.
>All in all, it was an enjoyable experience, I'm still kind of
>worried about subframe and engine mount, etc. failures.
Don't be. As mentioned, those are fairly rare, and usually with
high-mileage and/or heavily tracked cars.
My 2 cents,
Jim Bassett
1998 M3/4
1993 325is #44 JP/A5
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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 23:23:20 -0500
From: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <E36> Limited test drive of '99 323iS today
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Tom,
Is this (will it be?) your 1st BMW?
Paul A. Garnier
We spoke about my 95 M3 you expressed some interest in...
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 11:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UUC] <E36> Limited test drive of '99 323iS today
Hello listers,
I've been on the list for a while and am looking for an E36, I
guess preferably a coupe with Sports package. A couple weeks ago I
noticed a BMW at a dealership in town, stopped in and took a look, but
didn't take it out for a test drive at that time. So, today I stopped
in to talk to the sales guy I'd talked to previously and take the car
out for a test drive.
Well, he didn't come in today, so I got a brand new guy. (This
is in Sierra Vista, AZ, btw, town of about 40k people, no BMW dealership
there, closest one is Don Mackey BMW in Tucson, about 70 miles away.)
The car was at another one of their dealerships, so he had to go
retrieve it. Once the car got there, while he was doing paperwork and
making a copy of my license, I opened up the hood (engine and all looked
clean, but not steam cleaned clean) and I couldn't find the remote trunk
release (where is
it?) but I got in the car and started adjusting the seat.
To me, the car had a good amount of power (torque) and the
clutch and shifter felt good to me. Nice clutch feel (not too heavy not
too
light) and the shifter throws felt short enough and positive, (I didn't
miss a shift and I didn't kill it, so you know something had to be
right.)
I didn't have the occasion to throw the car around any corners,
but the steering felt responsive without being twitchy, I was pleased
with that. And, with my driving position saved, I ventured into the
back seat behind the driver and there was enough room for another "me
sized" person to sit comfortably with room to move my feet around a bit.
The leather on the seats seemed a bit hard, but of course that's only
specific for this particular car. The radio seemed a bit daunting, but
I guess some time with the manual would explain my questions, as well as
the climate control system. All in all, it was an enjoyable experience,
I'm still kind of worried about subframe and engine mount, etc.
failures. Other than that, I'd probably be just about ready to buy.
Any other owner impressions out there? Am I off base, on base, in the
ballpark...? Best regards, Tom Reynolds Hereford, AZ P.S. I think the
car I drove had around 33k miles, was as mentioned, a '99 323iS with the
Sports package.
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Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 23:05:30 -0700
From: Tom Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <E36> Limited test drive of '99 323iS today
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi Paul,
Actually no. My wife had a '79 320i for a few years until it was
involved in an accident and was never the same, she sold it. Then a few
years ago, I got a '73 2002tii from Sidney Island, Vancouver, BC, autoxed
it and promptly broke the control arms, had them fixed, then sold the car
to a guy in SF.
Best,
Tom
http://www.tomandkarenspage.com/2002tii.html
At 11:23 PM 08/09/2004 -0500, Paul Garnier wrote:
>
>Tom,
>
>Is this (will it be?) your 1st BMW?
>
>Paul A. Garnier
>
>We spoke about my 95 M3 you expressed some interest in...
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tom Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 11:16 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [UUC] <E36> Limited test drive of '99 323iS today
>
>
>Hello listers,
> I've been on the list for a while and am looking for an E36, I
>guess preferably a coupe with Sports package. A couple weeks ago I
>noticed a BMW at a dealership in town, stopped in and took a look, but
>didn't take it out for a test drive at that time. So, today I stopped
>in to talk to the sales guy I'd talked to previously and take the car
>out for a test drive.
> Well, he didn't come in today, so I got a brand new guy. (This
>is in Sierra Vista, AZ, btw, town of about 40k people, no BMW dealership
>there, closest one is Don Mackey BMW in Tucson, about 70 miles away.)
>The car was at another one of their dealerships, so he had to go
>retrieve it. Once the car got there, while he was doing paperwork and
>making a copy of my license, I opened up the hood (engine and all looked
>clean, but not steam cleaned clean) and I couldn't find the remote trunk
>release (where is
>it?) but I got in the car and started adjusting the seat.
> To me, the car had a good amount of power (torque) and the
>clutch and shifter felt good to me. Nice clutch feel (not too heavy not
>too
>light) and the shifter throws felt short enough and positive, (I didn't
>miss a shift and I didn't kill it, so you know something had to be
>right.)
> I didn't have the occasion to throw the car around any corners,
>but the steering felt responsive without being twitchy, I was pleased
>with that. And, with my driving position saved, I ventured into the
>back seat behind the driver and there was enough room for another "me
>sized" person to sit comfortably with room to move my feet around a bit.
>The leather on the seats seemed a bit hard, but of course that's only
>specific for this particular car. The radio seemed a bit daunting, but
>I guess some time with the manual would explain my questions, as well as
>the climate control system. All in all, it was an enjoyable experience,
>I'm still kind of worried about subframe and engine mount, etc.
>failures. Other than that, I'd probably be just about ready to buy.
>Any other owner impressions out there? Am I off base, on base, in the
>ballpark...? Best regards, Tom Reynolds Hereford, AZ P.S. I think the
>car I drove had around 33k miles, was as mentioned, a '99 323iS with the
>Sports package.
>
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
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>
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 8:40:39 -0400
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DE openings available MidOhio
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Openings are still available for the BMW CCA Buckeye Chapter September school at
Mid-Ohio.
Dates are September 4 & 5.
Contact Elizabeth Lutes at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Applications are available at http://buckeyebmwcca.org/html/schools.html.
Bill Wade
88 M3 Henna
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 06:54:17 -0700
From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: running an auto-x
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jay, did you know that there is a Yahoo Group for BMW CCA autocross
organizers? These groups are a little more focused in this subject
area, not that UUCers don't know about autocrosses.
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bmwccaautox/
Also, there is a new message board for BMW autocross:
www.bmwautocross.com
Now to your questions. In the following groupings, the format x-y
refers to x, the group driving, and y, the group working.
Your format of 1-2, 2-1, 3-4, 4-3 is fine if you are making the course
available for walking during change-overs. Othersise, there is some
time wasted changing between 1-2 and 2-1, and between 3-4 and 4-3,
since you have to wait while workers get their cars staged, and while
drivers stow their helmets and get to their work assignments. It
would be more efficient to do a 1-3, 2-4, 3-1 and 4-2, or something
like that. This gives everyone a break after their last run or work
session, and allows you to stage the next group of cars and workers as
they are coming off a break. Of course, the disadvantage is that
pretty much everyone has to be there all day, unlike your current
arrangement.
I assume you set up cones to create gates, slaloms, etc. along the
drag strip between turns 1 and 7. Are you allowed to use the whole
track, or only the drag strip? I would imagine that you are limited
to one car at a time on course because the track is so narrow? If you
could use a return route that does not just go back the way you came,
you could run multiple cars at about 20 or 25 second intervals. Your
timing system should allow you to do this. By running two or three
cars at a time, you can get in more runs in the same amount of time.
GGC usually has about 50 or 60 drivers, divided into 3 run groups.
Our courses run from 50 to 70 seconds. Everyone gets six runs.
Usually first car out is around 10 AM, and we finish the 3rd run group
around 2:30 or 3 PM, followed by fun runs. If we had 100 drivers,
we'd probably go with 4 run groups, cut down to 5 runs instead of 6, a
nd eliminate the fun runs. Or something like that.
Scott Miller
Auto-X Classification Chair
GGC BMW CCA
>Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 19:29:33 -1000
>From: Jay G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: E36M3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: running an auto-x
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
<snip>
>
>hey fellow garagers...i'm one of the "chiefs" at our local auto-x,
and we're
>gonna have a meeting this week and brainstorm a few ideas to make our
auto-x
>a little more efficient...so, i want the opinions of my fellow
garagers...
>
>we currently run 4 heats, and the classes are distributed so the
heats are
>about the same size, e.g A,B,stock with D,E mod, etc...workers
currently run
>one heat and work the next, i.e. run heat 1, work heat 2; run heat 2,
work
>heat 1...
>
>unfortunately, our only racing venue at this time is on a race
track...no
>open airfields or large parking lots is available...so, that kinda
jumbles
>the logistics a bit...our courses usually run from one end of the
couse to
>the other...see our track here:
>
>http://www.hawaiiracewaypark.com/layout.html
>
>the timing trailer is usually setup in the skid pad, and the
beginning/end
>of our courses is at the sweeper (turn 7), and hairpin (turn 1)...we
run the
>courses a different direction each month...
>
>we do have a wireless timing system which works good most of the
time, but
>it does crap out every now and then, resulting in re-runs...also
walking the
>course takes a little while...drivers times are announced over
broadcast FM
>radio- a system we just got, and is pretty cool i have to say...
>
>anyway, we'd like to be able to do things more efficiently,
especially with
>our growing number of autox'ers...we average over 100 every month,
and the
>course is ~60-70 seconds long...
>
>some have suggested to make the courses shorter, but imho, that'd
decrease
>the fun...or do we need to just get started earlier??? what do you
folks do
>in the mainland to take care of a lot of entrants...any ideas greatly
>appreciated...
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:37:24 -0400
From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'UUCDigest'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: M coupe questions
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
So,
There's this shiny, red 2000 Mcoupe at a dealer on the way home from work,
and I'm thinking, "this might work for me." I know, I know the '01's had a
boatload more power, but these don't come up too often & are still WELL into
the $30k+++ range. I'm pretty sure this one would REASONABLY go in the
mid-20's.
So, I have questions about these. Trouble spots? I know E30 M3's will
absolutely destroy swaybar & subframe mounting points that aren't
reinforced, for instance. Anything like that on the coupes?
Hop-upability? I know E36 M3's can benefit a ton from swapping the strut
hats & using the E30 M3 offset bushings. Am I correct in assuming this is
true for the M coupes as well?
Anything else I should know?
Lee
88 M3->damn, I would sure miss this......
01 Saab 9-3SE->eh?
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 10:14:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mike Hsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: M coupe questions
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi Lee,
The biggest problem to look out for is the tearing
subframe and/or differential mount. The following link
has tons of info about this:
http://www.thelargeglass.com/bmw/subframe/
For a bunch of info about the MCoupe you can look at
www.368s.com
Mike
--- "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> So,
>
> There's this shiny, red 2000 Mcoupe at a dealer on
> the way home from work,
> and I'm thinking, "this might work for me." I know,
> I know the '01's had a
> boatload more power, but these don't come up too
> often & are still WELL into
> the $30k+++ range. I'm pretty sure this one would
> REASONABLY go in the
> mid-20's.
>
> So, I have questions about these. Trouble spots? I
> know E30 M3's will
> absolutely destroy swaybar & subframe mounting
> points that aren't
> reinforced, for instance. Anything like that on the
> coupes?
>
> Hop-upability? I know E36 M3's can benefit a ton
> from swapping the strut
> hats & using the E30 M3 offset bushings. Am I
> correct in assuming this is
> true for the M coupes as well?
>
> Anything else I should know?
>
> Lee
> 88 M3->damn, I would sure miss this......
> 01 Saab 9-3SE->eh?
> Search the
>
ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
__________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast,
> founder of the BMW CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and
> home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 13:40:47 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: M coupe questions
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(sent ~2 hrs ago & no sign of it, so trying again)
Lee wrote:
> There's this shiny, red 2000 Mcoupe at a dealer on the way home from work,
> and I'm thinking, "this might work for me." I know, I know the '01's had a
> boatload more power, but these don't come up too often & are still WELL into
> the $30k+++ range. I'm pretty sure this one would REASONABLY go in the
> mid-20's.
wholesale for S52 M coupes is in the low 20's or below I believe. at least
that's what my '99 seemed like it was worth then I turned it in at the end of
the lease w/50k in the fall of '01. Mike Hsu here on the list ended up buying
it out in California, forget what he paid. perhaps values have stabilized
since then, but I don't imagine they have too much. they are pretty rare of
course, but I still think they're relatively cheap.
> So, I have questions about these. Trouble spots? I know E30 M3's will
> absolutely destroy swaybar & subframe mounting points that aren't
> reinforced, for instance. Anything like that on the coupes?
there have been a rash of problems with the rear diff mount
tearing out of the trunk floor and/or the floor itself coming
apart at a series of (obviously) not strong enough spot welds.
we had a bit of discussion on this subject back in the end of May
( I have a note dated 5/24 which was sorta the end of the thread)
so you should be able to find it in the archives if you look there.
search for "subframe tearing" and you should find them. I included
a couple of links to sites from coupe owners who have had the
problem repaired with varying results & thru varying means.
some have been able to get the dealer to do it, others have not.
we also opined as to the whys of the situation, but I've not
seen any definitive answer on the subject. I'm sure it's still a
topic of widespread discussion on the roadfly M/Z3 coupe
message board (a surprising useful roachfly board) & may
be info on the http://www.368s.com/ pages.
> Hop-upability? I know E36 M3's can benefit a ton from
> swapping the strut hats & using the E30 M3 offset bushings.
> Am I correct in assuming this is true for the M coupes as well?
don't remember. the MZ3 has a ton of caster, which might
not lend itself to swapping side-to-side, but I'm sure the
message board people can point you in the right direction.
the rest of the car is all E36 M3 stuff, so it's pretty bullet proof.
I'd probably add an oil cooler if I were going to track one, as
they tend to run hot (250+ on the track) oil temps. S54
cars got one as stock & consequently the filter housing has
gotten a good bit cheaper in the last couple of years. IIRC
you could put together the necessary parts for around $750
or so, less if you can source the cooler cheaper than stock/new.
Ben
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 10:46:06 -0700
From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: M coupe questions
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Aug 10, 2004, at 10:40 AM, ben keyes wrote:
>> So, I have questions about these. Trouble spots? I know E30 M3's
>> will
>> absolutely destroy swaybar & subframe mounting points that aren't
>> reinforced, for instance. Anything like that on the coupes?
>
> there have been a rash of problems with the rear diff mount
> tearing out of the trunk floor and/or the floor itself coming
> apart at a series of (obviously) not strong enough spot welds.
http://www.tcdesignfab.com/M%20Roadster.htm
- Mark
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