The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 176 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: 26 mile service 'test drive' ...What the hell? FS E30 Close Ratio 5 speed tranny E36 Stellar keyless entry Re: E36 Stellar keyless entry SA koni adjustments Re: SA koni adjustments Re: SA koni adjustments Rough idle - '93 318is leather steering wheel dry/rough patch Idle blip question? - '95 M3 Re: D'you think the engine is good ?? Re: D'you think the engine is good ?? Re: Insurance question
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 22:49:54 -0500 From: "Batt, Jeff (MED)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 26 mile service 'test drive' ...What the hell? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Chris - You have my sympathies...this sort of thing really sucks. We all appreciate your efforts to keep other forum readers well informed. I'll add in my 2 stories, hopefully someone can benefit from them.... Several years ago I had a twin turbo '93 Mazda RX-7...I took it in for service to a Mazda dealer in the south hills of Pittsburgh. I can't remember the name, but it's the one on Rt19 South, a few miles north of Washington, PA. I had dropped the car off the night before, they worked on it, and called me at 2pm to tell me it was done. When I arrived after 5pm to pick it up, I was pleased to see it parked in the shade (it was a sunny summer day). But I was really disappointed when I started it up that the temp gauge was pegged - hotter than I had ever seen the gauge read. I opened the hood, and it was steaming...sort of strange for a car that had been done and sitting in the shade for over 3 hours. I immedately went in to talk to the service mgr...who was gone for the day. So I called him the next day and got nothing but a rude "so what?"... In about 1999, the tach in my 1995 M3 stopped working. It was replaced under warranty by Swope BMW in Louisville, KY - who assured me they would just replace the tach (thus the speedometer and odometer wouldn't be touched). They lied, so when I went to pick it up that night after work, I got into a car with 0 miles on the clock. I went into complain and they told me I "mis-understood" when I dropped off the car. Disgusted, I left only to find a guy getting into my car in parking lot. I asked him what he was doing and he told me he was "taking this used car home to try it out". I rather enjoyed telling him to get away from my car. In a way, I'm grateful to these places. It was their piss poor service (and a few other stealers) that inspired me to do as much of my own car maintanence as I can. -Battman -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis Wynne Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 10:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] 26 mile service 'test drive' ...What the hell? Best one of these stories I have heard. A friend of a friend dropped his car off a the dealer (some GM make, I think) for some simple repair. Being now car-less, he rode to lunch with a co-worker. They chose a local Captain D's - he sees a car that looks like his in the parking lot. He looks in the window and sees 4 mechanics from the dealership sitting at a table eating lunch. He tries his spare key on the car - yep it is his, so he drives it to another restaurant for lunch and then back to work. Then he waits for the dealership to call to inform him his car was stolen - then he gets to rip them a new one :-) An employee of a local Honda dealer was out joy riding in my Civic years ago - I caught him (running out to get something to eat with a co-worker). He was fired, but they didn't offer me any discount off of the service - I got a "we are sorry". I always note the mileage any time I drop off a car (or motorcycle) for service so I will know if they are driving it or not. When I had a 'vette it always seemed to get the most "Test drive" miles. With a OBC you should reset the average speed and MPG when you drop it off as well. Then if they do a road test you might get some idea of what kind of "test" they did. Dennis 01 M5 silver/black At 10:16 PM 5/7/04 -0700, you wrote: >Chris, > I would personally agree that the dealer really >screwed up here, and I would be pretty angry with >them. I cannot be positive that what I'm about to say >is really the true situation, but at a relatively new >(and large) dealership near where I was going to >school, I had stopped in one day to pick up a part. >As I was coming back out to my car from the parts >counter, I noticed one of the salesmen getting out of >a car that was sitting around in the lot near the >service bay, and I knew it wasn't his, because the car >had one of those paper carpet linings and a plastic >seat cover - and the keys he had consisted of solely >the car key and remote (you'd think he'd have other >keys on there, especially if it were his car). As he >stepped out of the car, he grabbed a brown paper bag >with some writing on it..I looked closer: it was some >fast food that I believe he took the customer's car to >go pick up for himself and/or some of his >coworkers/buddies. I do think occurrences like this >are relatively common, as the majority of customers >aren't as watchful of such things as enthusiasts like >us...and I think these guys bet on that. I frown to >think that the dealership management allows this, but >of course it seems more likely that the sales guys or >service techs are taking the cars out without >management's knowledge. Not only is it a point of >consternation to those watchful customers, it's also >(as Bill mentioned) a pretty big liability for the >dealer. > >HTH, >Brian > > >--- Chris Marino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Group, > > > > Just picked my car up from the dealer. There were > > 26 miles on the car from > > the mileage in which I left it. > > > > "What was worked-on?" I'm getting there... > > > > They are trying to tell me that the 26 miles that > > were put on the car, while > > it was there, were 'necessary' to validate the > > repair work. What did they > > do? An engine? No. Transmission? No. Driveshaft? > > No. Subframe? No. > > Suspension? No. > > > > The rear windshield wiper/washer wasn't spraying on > > the back window. > > The drivers side door gasket was replaced because it > > was leaking a little > > water in. > > > > I've asked that the service manager call me back. > > This request comes after > > I wasn't satisfied with the service writer informing > > me that this is 'the > > norm' and 'common'. > > > > Please...Someone give me a good, well-thought-out, > > explanation as to how > > these repairs necessitated 26 road miles? > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > Search the > > >ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > > founder of the BMW CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > > home of the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs >http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 23:37:57 -0700 From: Jerry Kingman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: FS E30 Close Ratio 5 speed tranny Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> i have a rare close ratio 5 speed transmission for sale from an 84' 323i. this is the "dog leg" tranny with 1st gear down and to the left with a 1:1 ratio 5th gear and closer spaced gears. it can be used with any baby six 323i/325i engine. it is in good condition with 140k, no bearing noise and good synchros. includes shift lever and mount. paid ~ $1k, asking $795 + shipping from the so. CA. area. jerry kingman bmw cca# 93056 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 07:37:33 -0500 From: "M Kittock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "bmwuucdigest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: E36 Stellar keyless entry Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anyone have experience with the Stellar keyless entry? After 6 years I'm finally thinking of adding this to my '96 328i. It's about 1/3 the cost of the factory unit (which also includes the alarm features I don't need). TIA!! Mark Kittock '96 328i Sport Pkg; many mods '04 TSX on order '00 Durango soon 4 sale '97 Contour SE (gone) '86 CRX Si (gone) '86 944 turbo (gone) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 09:36:44 -0400 From: "DUNLAP, LARRY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: E36 Stellar keyless entry Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've had one for about 3 years now, and have for the most part been very happy with it. Get the bigger remote/key fob if you can (the base ones are small and don't stand up well to a lot of abuse). -Larry -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of M Kittock Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 8:38 AM To: bmwuucdigest Subject: [UUC] E36 Stellar keyless entry Anyone have experience with the Stellar keyless entry? After 6 years I'm finally thinking of adding this to my '96 328i. It's about 1/3 the cost of the factory unit (which also includes the alarm features I don't need). TIA!! Mark Kittock '96 328i Sport Pkg; many mods '04 TSX on order '00 Durango soon 4 sale '97 Contour SE (gone) '86 CRX Si (gone) '86 944 turbo (gone) Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:04:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SA koni adjustments Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Howdy, So I'm putting on some SA konis on the '93 325 tonight. These are off the shelf Koni Yellows, rebound adjustable. On the front struts, I didn't bring a Koni knob with me. Which direction is stiffer, etc? On the rear shocks, Apparently you completely compress the rear shock, then turn it to adjust (which seems like a huge PITA, but whatever). What direction is stiffer/softer? Are there detents? How many or what's the range of motion while adjusting? Thanks! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:23:59 -0400 From: "Tom Melton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: SA koni adjustments Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mark, http://www.koni-na.com/adjustment.html will give you the general Koni adjustment procedures. I believe there are no detents. -Tom >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/10/04 10:04AM >>> Howdy, So I'm putting on some SA konis on the '93 325 tonight. These are off the shelf Koni Yellows, rebound adjustable. On the front struts, I didn't bring a Koni knob with me. Which direction is stiffer, etc? On the rear shocks, Apparently you completely compress the rear shock, then turn it to adjust (which seems like a huge PITA, but whatever). What direction is stiffer/softer? Are there detents? How many or what's the range of motion while adjusting? Thanks! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:37:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SA koni adjustments Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> True. When I adjusted my rear Konis, I turned to full soft (CCW, but double-check that 'cause it's been a while), then to full hard, counting the turns to determine the overall range. I also counted the turns from engaging the mechanism to full soft to note where the adjustment was when I started, then adjusted stiffer from there. BTW, be glad you don't have an E28--I have to remove the springs to adjust the shocks! Even with that, both sides can be done in under an hour. With an E36 you could probably do it in less than 30 minutes. -tammer --- Tom Melton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark, > > http://www.koni-na.com/adjustment.html will give you the > general Koni adjustment procedures. I believe there are > no detents. > > -Tom > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/10/04 10:04AM >>> > > On the rear shocks, Apparently you completely compress > the rear shock, > then turn it to adjust (which seems like a huge PITA, but > whatever). What > direction is stiffer/softer? Are there detents? How > many or what's the > range of motion while adjusting? > > Thanks! > > Mark __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:20:39 -0400 From: "DUNLAP, LARRY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Rough idle - '93 318is Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've got a 1993 318is (M42 engine) with a rough, lumpy idle. It's fine at speed, but at idle it's definitely not smooth (not surging, nor wildly fluctuating, but definitely stumbling -does it both warm and cold). Did a full tune-up with new plugs and filters. Ran some fuel injector cleaner through it as well. Car has a brand new idle control valve. Stomp test gives no error code at all. I'm thinking it's a vacuum leak, but I have had no luck in tracking any down. I've tried all the tricks to find one. Seems to be getting progressively worse, as it stalled twice this morning. Any thoughts? Any common failure points on the 4 cylinder engine? I searched the archives, but most posts seem to be related to the 6 cylinder cars, and other than the post about the crankcase ventilation on an M3, I didn't really see any solutions... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 09:51:39 -0500 From: "Stephen Kneuper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: leather steering wheel dry/rough patch Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It is time to do something about my leather steering wheel; it has a dry, rough patch at the very top center of the wheel. Here in Austin Texas that's the part of the wheel that gets the sun all day, every day. I assume I'll just find a good leather conditioner / cleaner at the local auto parts store; but I though I'd ask to see if there were any recommendations! Thanks in advance! --steve in texas --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.676 / Virus Database: 438 - Release Date: 5/3/2004 [Attachment of type application/ms-tnef removed.] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:20:19 -0500 From: "Batt, Jeff (MED)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Idle blip question? - '95 M3 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello All, I recently did a Service II (myself) to my 1995 M3 (80k on it). In a stroke of luck, I ran out of time and was forced to replace the spark plugs a week later. The car was running fine before the spark plug change, but had a small rmp drop at idle after I changed the spark plugs (so I knew it was the plugs). I was running bosch plus 4 plugs, and went to bosch plus 2's. The car seemed to run fine at speed, but again, when sitting at a stoplight or whatever, there would be a repeating VERY SLIGHT drop in RPM, the car would feel like it was going to stall (just slightly though - it never actually came close to stalling), and then it would be fine for another 20 seconds...this cycle would just repeat. I then bought 6 new bosch plus 4 plugs, and the problem went away. I'm happy that it's gone, but sort of wondering if anyone has any thoughts as to why it happened? The only thing I can think of is one of the plugs was bad or weak. BTW - I'm running a Dinan Stage II chip/fuel regulator, a Dinan throttle body and a Bavarian Autowerks K&N filtered air intake. TIA! Battman ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 09:36:41 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: D'you think the engine is good ?? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The description says the interior is good. The pictures don't agree. I guess "good" is subjective. I wouldn't bid either. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 16:27:30 -0500 >From: "BMWBits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Uucdigest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: D'you think the engine is good ?? >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Look at the number of folks who have looked at this car ...and zero bids >!! >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6131&i >tem=2477227308&rd=1 > >Bill & Shirley Proud ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:35:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: D'you think the engine is good ?? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There are other inconsistencies - is it a 2001 or a 2003? The seller mentions it is a viable replacement if you have blown up your racing M3 motor. If you've blown up one M3 motor, you're not likely to replace it with a motor from another 2001. However, the car does have redeeming qualities. For instance, as far as I can tell, production numbers were EXTREMELY low for the 2001/2003 M3's with the 6.0 liter V12. Maybe it was a head on collision with a 328i and the seller has aggregated the displacements of the entangled motors. - Neil 1994 325is 1999 M3 Combined 5.7 liter V-12 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The description says the interior is good. The > pictures don't agree. I > guess "good" is subjective. I wouldn't bid either. > > Scott Miller > GGC BMW CCA > > >Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 16:27:30 -0500 > >From: "BMWBits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Uucdigest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: D'you think the engine is good ?? > >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Look at the number of folks who have looked at this > car ...and zero bids > >!! > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6131&i > >tem=2477227308&rd=1 > > > >Bill & Shirley Proud > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 09:58:33 -0700 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Insurance question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for all the responses. I figured that much. I tried to chase her down, caught up to her and then finally realized that I cannot really do anything. She was shaking her head thinking what a moronic BMW owner, driving like crazy and then cutting in front of her. Oh well. In the future, I'm going to practice using my camera phone so I can take a picture really fast to catch these offending drivers. Yeah, sure. We really need a more strict drivers licensing process. Many of these people are getting licenses who has no business getting behind the wheel. And they will talk on a cellphone and drive at the same time!!!! Sigh. I give up. -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Wynne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 6:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gordo, Ping Subject: Re: [UUC] Insurance question I think you are SOL, sorry to say. I had a woman hit me - she was in the lane next to me (two lanes turning left) and swerved into my lane. I had time to lay on the home go to full ABS lock and still crunch. There was a curb to my left so no where to go. She did stop, I called the cops, no witnesses stopped. When the cop got there I told him what happened - the woman said "I head a horn honking, then I heard a crunch". You would have thought she would have done something besides coming on over once she heard the horn, but that is another story. With no witnesses, the cop refused to give her a ticket or find fault in the accident. It was an eye opening experience for me. I left the house that morming with a "perfect" car and through no fault of my own I had $700 worth of repairs. I got stuck for the $250 deductible - and possibly a raise in my rates at some point. My insurance company is still trying to get money out of hers, but without the ticket or finding of fault it probably is not going to happen. Moral of the story, it does not matter if you are right or not. I also now know to ALWAYS stop when I see a wreck. Even though it should be obvious who is at fault, I will stop. If I don't have time to stick around, I will give my name and number to the not-at-fault driver so I can back them up so this does not happen to them. Dennis 01 M5 silver/black At 01:22 PM 5/7/04 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Let me ask the insurance experts and adjusters in this forum. If a moronic >driver cuts you off "accidentally" and you were able to swerve to avoid >her but in the process hit the median and damage your car, can you get her >for hit and run? > >I am thinking now that I should have just let her hit me instead, at least >I can give chase and get the plates and it would be a lot more fun. This >autox and DE experience is making me better at avoiding moving objects but >those stationary ones are hard to miss. I love running over cones now. ;-) > >Anybody? > >Pingger ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(13 messages) **********
