I just transitioned from Windows to Mac, new download, and get the same error. The default Raspbian OS now installed just fine on the same SD with the same equipment. I now dare to conclude that the problem is with your image.
Best, Steffen > > Rod, > > You referenced the download page and so I just went through > https://linuxcnc.org/downloads/ again and liked it a lot. Very clear, many > thanks! Whoever wrote that - many thanks! My initial reflex was like "Our > documentation should be as good or better" and then thought that maybe the > documentation should in contrary just depend on the download page to know > best what to download and we should possibly even minimize our LinuxCNC > documentation on OS install questions with a pointer to the Download page?!? > > I downloaded the RPi5 image , ran xz -dt on it with no complaint, but then > got a complaint by rpi-imager, the image size would not be a multiple of 512. > That was with the same SD that had held the previous version. Did anybody > else get that message, too? I ran this with another machine, with a USB SD > adapter, so something could be off. Will try another download and another > machine, but should someone else run into this, please kindly shout out. > > Happy New Year to everyone, > Steffen > > > > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. Dezember 2023 um 20:06 Uhr > > Von: "Rod Webster" <r...@vehiclemods.net.au> > > An: "EMC developers" <emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> > > Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] RPi5 + Raspbian + LinuxCNC latency tests - > > first impressions > > > > Hi guys, > > I've sent new images for the Pi 4b and Pi 5 to Andy for testing, with a > > view that they be deployed on the downloads page. These both use the 6.1.69 > > kernel which is the very first version where the Raspberry Kernel and the > > PREEMPT_RT patch align perfectly. Hopefully over the last 6 weeks, the pi5 > > is better supported now. > > > > *Raspberry Pi 4b/400* > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Bzx_PqRqdJVTMPlNMEG7z_RjJHf7QcDX/view?usp=sharing > > > > *Raspberry PI 5* > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HBXliMQE-OvU0PQPYEOK3OqJz0-CTO5K/view?usp=sharing > > > > For initial login credentials, and initial configuration, please refer to > > the download page > > https://linuxcnc.org/downloads/ > > > > Rod Webster > > *1300 896 832* > > +61 435 765 611 > > Vehicle Modifications Network > > www.vehiclemods.net.au > > > > > > On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 at 01:35, Steffen Möller via Emc-developers < > > emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > > > > Rod, > > > > > > Thank you for your kind and swift reply. > > > HDMI sound works perfectly with the Raspbian default. Also, I think this > > > would find quite some user base, since anyone reusing an old TV or a > > > feature-rich monitor with the RPi would immediately benefit. I also > > > mentioned games before :) > > > > > > The RPi image we come up with does not need to be perfect. Our users > > > should just not be surprised with anythin when using it. My wishlist would > > > be > > > * A pointer to our manual at all the places where the image could be > > > downloaded > > > * The manual describing > > > - how the image is created so they can contribute > > > - what not to do with that image > > > > > > On a sidenote, please have a look at http://raspi.debian.net/. Nothing on > > > the RPi5, though maybe this resonates somehow with what we are after. > > > > > > Best, > > > Steffen > > > > > > > Gesendet: Samstag, 30. Dezember 2023 um 14:16 Uhr > > > > Von: "Rod Webster" <r...@vehiclemods.net.au> > > > > An: "EMC developers" <emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> > > > > Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] RPi5 + Raspbian + LinuxCNC latency tests - > > > first impressions > > > > > > > > Steffen, > > > > > > > > Some good feedback thanks. > > > > I'm really not surprised things broke on an update because we compile > > > > the > > > > kernel from the Raspberry sources at a specific point in the commit > > > > tree. > > > > It's not a generic Debian build by any means. LIkewise installing a > > > > different desktop is also asking for trouble. > > > > > > > > Having no sound is also not surprising because in the absence of an > > > > audio > > > > jack you are dependent on HDMI and I know other SBC's have issues with > > > HDMI > > > > sound. If someone has a solution please let me know > > > > > > > > Please bear in mind that this image is over 6 weeks old and there have > > > been > > > > several kernel releases and countless commits to the raspberry pi kernel > > > > since then. > > > > > > > > But for me, the main thing is that it's only in the last few days that > > > the > > > > kernel version and the PREEMPT_RT patch align perfectly so I am hoping > > > > my > > > > next version is more robust. That has never happened in the life of the > > > pi5 > > > > before. > > > > > > > > To test latency on the console, you can install the debian rt-tests > > > > package. I have found that our latency-histogram yields similar results. > > > > > > > > I don't think a single 400 usec spike when opening a browser is of > > > concern. > > > > Thats not something you do when running a gcode program. > > > > > > > > Hopefully I will have some peace and quiet over the weekend to build a > > > new > > > > version. > > > > > > > > Rod Webster > > > > *1300 896 832* > > > > +61 435 765 611 > > > > Vehicle Modifications Network > > > > www.vehiclemods.net.au > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 at 21:58, Steffen Möller via Emc-developers < > > > > emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Heya, > > > > > > > > > > Not only that we have a RPi4/5 confusion, you managed to add a Rod/b > > > one. > > > > > > > > > > So, the image Andy pointed to (which I understand has its roots with > > > Rod) > > > > > works very nicely. While idle latencies did not exceed 12µs, mostly > > > below > > > > > 10. That was truly impressive. Once I got wifi up and initiated some > > > > > downloads, it doubled to 24µs, much like the value Andy got. When I > > > started > > > > > up firefox and selected youtube, I got a single value of 400µs, > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > A complaint I have is that there was no sound in the default > > > installation. > > > > > The 400µs I like to speculate may be associated with the failed > > > attempt to > > > > > perform the respective initialisations. > > > > > > > > > > Another complaint is that the image is not stable when it comes to > > > > > updates. I was curious on the effect that the installation of KDE > > > > > would > > > > > have on the latencies, and if the missing sound would install with it. > > > So I > > > > > installed the package "task-desktop-kde" with debfoster. That ruined > > > the > > > > > reboot since the expected kernel image was no longer found. I made a > > > > > screenshot with my phone and send it to whoever is interested, but my > > > hunch > > > > > is that Rod's new image if depending more on Debian's installation > > > > > will > > > > > likely solve such inconsistency issues. > > > > > > > > > > Do we have any latency tools that would run without X, so we get a > > > > > baseline of what software layer is costing us how much? I recall that > > > we do > > > > > but latency-test at least does not. I am asking since the > > > latency-sensitive > > > > > gaming industry should have some strong incentive to look into what we > > > are > > > > > doing but I have not seen too much from them, yet. Ok - this may be > > > > > something for another thread. > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > Steffen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gesendet: Samstag, 30. Dezember 2023 um 04:15 Uhr > > > > > > Von: "Rob M" <ozzyro...@gmail.com> > > > > > > An: "EMC developers" <emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> > > > > > > Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] RPi5 + Raspbian + LinuxCNC latency > > > tests - > > > > > first impressions > > > > > > > > > > > > Umm Rod Old Mate was referring to the my linked images for the RPi4, > > > not > > > > > > your ones, the ones I built for other reasons. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2023 at 1:26 PM Rod Webster <r...@vehiclemods.net.au > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >None of those images were for the Rpi-5, I thought the RPi4 in > > > > > > > >the > > > > > file > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well yes they are. Andy and Steffan are using pi5 variant of my > > > image > > > > > which > > > > > > > is used for the 2.9.1 release from here: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H_q0Ra-27ZDOhquvq179beUZQNVlex1f/view?usp=sharing > > > > > > > Filename (with rpi-5 in it): > > > > > > > rpi-5-debian-bookworm-6.1.61-rt15-arm64-ext4-2023-11-17-1520.img.xz > > > > > > > It was built for the Pi 5's BCM2712 board. > > > > > > > Username: cnc Password: cnc > > > > > > > to finalise the installation (wifi, password , locale etc) type: > > > sudo > > > > > > > menu-config > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the screen resolution is not right, it should be able to be > > > fixed > > > > > with > > > > > > > a parameter in one of the pi's config files. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just completed and tested a 2.9.2 installer for X86 on > > > Debian > > > > > 12.4. > > > > > > > I managed to bypass the raspberry-firmware installation bug in > > > earlier > > > > > > > versions (Inherited from Debian) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nw0dGt5aZXVo8k68lLf4N_nzc0wTczAg/view?usp=sharing > > > > > > > I will also rebuild the images for the Pi4 and Pi5, but I am > > > kernelled > > > > > out > > > > > > > for today! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rod Webster > > > > > > > *1300 896 832* > > > > > > > +61 435 765 611 > > > > > > > Vehicle Modifications Network > > > > > > > www.vehiclemods.net.au > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 at 12:00, Rob M <ozzyro...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > None of those images were for the Rpi-5, I thought the RPi4 in > > > the > > > > > file > > > > > > > > name would made the obvious, but as this a topic about the 4 I > > > guess > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > could be some confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As for the recent RPi5 image you tried does that have any issues > > > with > > > > > > > > screen resolution? Is it stuck on a single resolution? Does it > > > > > detect the > > > > > > > > display it's attached to ? These issues, as mentioned > > > previously, a > > > > > game > > > > > > > > stopper for myself. If they aren't an issue could you say what > > > > > > > > kind-brand-model display you're using ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 30 Dec 2023, 11:40 andy pugh, <bodge...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 at 00:27, Steffen Möller via > > > > > > > > > Emc-developers > > > > > > > > > <emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy's image was a success - I just did not know the > > > passwords. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I mentioned it in a previous message, but it is cnc / cnc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > atp > > > > > > > > > "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, > > > daredevils > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > lunatics." > > > > > > > > > — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > Emc-developers mailing list > > > > > > > > > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Emc-developers mailing list > > > > > > > > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Emc-developers mailing list > > > > > > > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Emc-developers mailing list > > > > > > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Emc-developers mailing list > > > > > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Emc-developers mailing list > > > > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Emc-developers mailing list > > > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Emc-developers mailing list > > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > _______________________________________________ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
