--- On Fri, 4/26/13, Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com> wrote:

> From: Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com>
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] off topic opinions
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Date: Friday, April 26, 2013, 10:56 AM
> kqt4a...@gmail.com
> wrote:
> > I appreciate all of the feedback
> > You have saved me a lot of money, headaches and
> possible alcoholism
> > I need to rethink my hobbies to fit my space, maybe a
> nice quilting frame
> >   
> There are small machines that work acceptably.  They
> still have limitations,
> but trying to make a cheap machine in China that ALSO is
> actually two
> totally different machines in one is asking for trouble.

For several years I had two 7" swing lathes from China. One was NOT made by 
SIEG. It was similar but had a thicker apron with a double ball bearing on the 
carriage crank shaft, way wipers, a heavier, rectangular shape saddle, four 
bolts holding the headstock to the bed, and a locking adjustment nut at the 
right end of the leadscrew. The way surfaces were induction hardened and 
ground. It was pretty much ready to use out of the box. This one is still made 
but hard to find as most companies that import it in any country tend to switch 
to the cheaper SIEG version.

The other one was an old Grizzly import, serial #346. I was at least the 3rd or 
4th owner and the first owner who knew what to do to correct its problems and 
fix the damage inflicted by previous owners. When I was done with it, it was a 
decent little lathe though it still had the lighter weight "H" saddle, no way 
wipers, a thin apron with no bearings, no leadscrew adjustment nut, only three 
headstock bolts and a quite simple and antique looking SCR motor controller 
that made the motor run quite noisily.

The non-SIEG lathe had a much better PWM controller with e-stop and safety 
circuit where the speed dial had to be turned all the way down to start it.

Both lathes had decent quality ball bearings on the spindle and were capable of 
putting a fine finish on work when good cutters were used. If I'd bought a PWM 
board for the Grizzly it would have been better.

I've since sold both of those, bought and refurbished a 1940 10x24 Montgomery 
Ward Standard Model (serial 1031, the 30th lathe Logan made), bought, 
refurbished and sold a 1967 South Bend 9" 3.5 foot bed Model A. Now I'm looking 
for more old lathes to refurbish, some to keep and use, some to sell.

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