Buy a TV.

Joey, from friends.  Typical greeting to female types.

"How *YOU* doin'?

<sigh>

J

-----Original Message-----
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive


Is that a Friends reference?

Computer Associates is desperate.  I predict layoffs.

William

-----Original Message-----
From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive


How *YOU* doin?

-----Original Message-----
From: Tiffany Ernest [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:12 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: CA becoming more responsive


Well, for what it is worth, I also got a call.  Not from a techie or a VP,
someone in Marketing.  I expressed similar concerns, non-English speaking
(writing) tech support, the fact that their solution to everything is
"re-install", the wait time, etc.  What Christina told me was that they are
giving the Indian technicians English lessons (she actually said, "we make
them watch 'Friends'") and that she couldn't help me with my technical
problems but gave me the number for tech support (just a useless loop for me
and the Exchange agent for acrserve).  She was going to send me some contact
info via email but she said their email was down and didn't know when it
would be back up.  So, I wouldn't put much stock in the "New and Improved"
CA.  Unless you like the witty quips from 'Friends' as a response to your
technical issues. Tiffany Ernest

"Sanborn, John" wrote:

> Having a VP calling does not say much other 'we have do something to
> APPEAR to be improving'.  Once the low-level techs start improving 
> then it would be something worth looking into.  Otherwise, it's all so 
> much P.R. propaganda.
>
> John
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent:   Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:23 PM
> To:     MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject:        RE: CA becoming more responsive
>
> The fact that someone called you is impressive.  It's a big maybe,
> though, that we will go back to them.  But I think not.  Because of 
> their ARCServe product, our disaster recovery became a running joke.  
> Being a Financial Banking firm where down time can cost us as much as 
> $1 million bucks an hour, I for one am not willing to wear my career 
> on my sleeve or the viability of a good Arcserve backup/recovery.
>
> Signed, burned once..
>
> Dot Harris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:16 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: CA becoming more responsive
>
> Hi, all,
>
> Thought I'd share with you my notes on this (surprising) new contact i
> just had with the Computer Associates VP of Technical Support.  Though 
> I had been a vocal critic of CA's tech support in the past, even back 
> when I was an SE, I thought I was a lightweight when it came to 
> CA-bashing on this list.  So I was surprised when I got a call from 
> their VP/TS, especially since he was calling from the east coast.
>
> Anyway, let me just hit the high points for you ...
>
> I told him my main complaints with CA products (ARCserve & Inoculan)
> were lack of real-time tech support, and the nightmare of RegIT.  He 
> agreed. Here are a few of the things he told me:
>
> - CA has relaxed their registration code, so that now it does not
> disable the service.
>
> - They have beefed up their support staff, with an office in India
> with 100 techies, and now 80%+ of their calls actually get answered by 
> a real tech support person.  Wow!  I used to get the "take a number, 
> we'll call you back someday" runaround.
>
> - Their knowledge base has been beefed up.  I recall it used to be
> pretty thin. I haven't checked it out yet.
>
> Well, I was impressed that a high-level guy from CA is actually
> reaching out to customers and people in the industry, and trying to 
> respond to criticisms.  Maybe they have turned over a new leaf.  I 
> won't have the opportunity to really evaluate them as we are a Backup 
> Exec / Sophos / Antigen shop, and being happy with these I'm not 
> changing horses ... but maybe some of you out there will revisit CA 
> products and give them a fresh chance.
>
> FWIW
>
> Bob Peitzke
> Information Systems Manager
> Sander A. Kessler & Associates
> Santa Monica, CA, USA
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