That's their problem - once a customer becomes disenchanted and moves to a
competitive product, and it works for them, and they get good support, it's
hard to get them back.  CA's underinvestment in support staff (and probably
SW development) cost them a huge fraction of market share.  I think it would
have cost them a lot less to have invested in these areas before the
customers left. Oh well, maybe they really get it now - it sounds like they
are investing and trying to do it right.  We'll see ...

- Bob

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The fact that someone called you is impressive.  It's a big maybe, though,
that we will go back to them.  But I think not.  Because of their ARCServe
product, our disaster recovery became a running joke.  Being a Financial
Banking firm where down time can cost us as much as $1 million bucks an
hour, I for one am not willing to wear my career on my sleeve or the
viability of a good Arcserve backup/recovery.

Signed, burned once..

Dot Harris


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From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:16 PM
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Subject: CA becoming more responsive


Hi, all,

Thought I'd share with you my notes on this (surprising) new contact i just
had with the Computer Associates VP of Technical Support.  Though I had been
a vocal critic of CA's tech support in the past, even back when I was an SE,
I thought I was a lightweight when it came to CA-bashing on this list.  So I
was surprised when I got a call from their VP/TS, especially since he was
calling from the east coast.

Anyway, let me just hit the high points for you ...

I told him my main complaints with CA products (ARCserve & Inoculan) were
lack of real-time tech support, and the nightmare of RegIT.  He agreed.
Here are a few of the things he told me:

- CA has relaxed their registration code, so that now it does not disable
the service.

- They have beefed up their support staff, with an office in India with 100
techies, and now 80%+ of their calls actually get answered by a real tech
support person.  Wow!  I used to get the "take a number, we'll call you back
someday" runaround.

- Their knowledge base has been beefed up.  I recall it used to be pretty
thin. I haven't checked it out yet.

Well, I was impressed that a high-level guy from CA is actually reaching out
to customers and people in the industry, and trying to respond to
criticisms.  Maybe they have turned over a new leaf.  I won't have the
opportunity to really evaluate them as we are a Backup Exec / Sophos /
Antigen shop, and being happy with these I'm not changing horses ... but
maybe some of you out there will revisit CA products and give them a fresh
chance.

FWIW

Bob Peitzke
Information Systems Manager
Sander A. Kessler & Associates
Santa Monica, CA, USA


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